I'm betting it would be schlepee, schlepor, or dimwit. The latter being one
of the irregular conjugations. Vitaly is right it would be nice to have a
printable synonym for compliance engineer. The closest every used for me was
some of the shift numeric keys such as #@(*$@!!!
Heavy sigh!
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Gorodetsky, Vitaly [SMTP:vgorodet...@canoga.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 10:03 AM
To: 'Knighten, James L'; ed.pr...@cubic.com; 'Brent DeWitt';
Allen Tudor; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing
Ed,
Thanks for your eloquent linguistic excursion. I am wondering
whether there
is a noun derivative from SCHLEP. It could be a nice synonym for
Compliance
Engineering and schlepper would be a recognizable term in everyone's
resume
for compliance engineer.
Best Regards
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Knighten, James L
[SMTP:jk100...@exchange.sandiegoca.ncr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 3:57 PM
> To: ed.pr...@cubic.com; Knighten, James L; 'Brent DeWitt'; Allen
Tudor;
> emc-p...@ieee.org; Gary McInturff
> Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing
>
> Ed and Others,
>
> Thanks for the lesson in colloquial jargon.
>
> Obviously, I have been schlepping all these many years and did not
realize
> it.
>
> Just a final note: MS Word 97's spell checker recognizes both
"schlep"
> and
> "schlepping."
>
> Jim
>
> Dr. Jim Knighten e-mail: jlknigh...@ieee.org
> <mailto:jlknigh...@ieee.org>
> Senior Consulting Engineer
> NCR
> 17095 Via del Campo
> San Diego, CA 92127 http://www.ncr.com
<http://www.ncr.com>
> Tel: 619-485-2537
> Fax: 619-485-3788
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ed.pr...@cubic.com [SMTP:ed.pr...@cubic.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 5:40 PM
> To: Knighten, James L; 'Brent DeWitt'; Allen Tudor;
> emc-p...@ieee.org; Gary McInturff
> Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing
>
> James:
>
> Schlep is a little descriptive verb I learned during a three
year
> long exile in Northern New Jersey. It's Yiddish, meaning to haul,
to drag,
> to sweat, to expend considerable energy with little reward and no
respect.
> It's five steps forward and four steps back, plus you stub your
toe. And
> there's a rock in your shoe. And you just might be developing a
blister.
> Sisyphus was a schlepper.
>
> Yes, it's certainly a military term, although each service
and era
> assigns a new name to it. But, now that I think about it, maybe a
trip to
> the parking lot doesn't quite measure up to schlepping.
>
> ;-)
> Ed
>
>
>
> ------------------------
> From: "Knighten, James L"
<jk100...@exchange.sandiegoca.ncr.com>
> Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing
> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:37:35 -0700
> To: ed.pr...@cubic.com, 'Brent DeWitt'
<bdew...@ix.netcom.com>,
> Allen Tudor <allen_tu...@pairgain.com>, emc-p...@ieee.org, Gary
McInturff
> <gmcintu...@packetengines.com>
>
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > I'm not familiar with the verb "to schlep."
> >
> > Is this a specialized technical term, perhaps particular
to EMC or
> to the
> > military arena?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Dr. Jim Knighten e-mail: jlknigh...@ieee.org
> > <mailto:jlknigh...@ieee.org>
> > Senior Consulting Engineer
> > NCR
> > 17095 Via del Campo
> > San Diego, CA 92127 http://www.ncr.com
> <http://www.ncr.com>
> > Tel: 619-485-2537
> > Fax: 619-485-3788
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ed.pr...@cubic.com [SMTP:ed.pr...@cubic.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 2:38 PM
> > To: 'Brent DeWitt'; Allen Tudor;
emc-p...@ieee.org; Gary
> > McInturff
> > Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing
> >
> > The roof alternative has been done more than a few
times.
> Emaco (now
> > part of TUVPS) in San Diego had a pair of pneumatic lifts
which
> travelled
> > from their second floor through the roof. The test
specimen and
> antenna
> > could be set up on their respective elevators, pushed up
through
> the roof,
> > and come to rest level with the roof ground plane.
> >
> > I imagine that they did have some problems with
weathering
> of
> > conductive interfaces and water leakage, but it did serve
them
> well for a
> > few years.
> >
> > BTW, I agree that the "parking lot" option is better
than
> trying to
> > live with a test site WITHIN a commercial office
structure. There
> have been
> > several posters who already described the problems found
inside
> the
> > building. Some of the problems with a parking lot site
are:
> >
> > 1. Sometimes the cars encroach on the site.
> > 2. You have to schlep all your stuff out to the
site, and
> back again
> > at night.
> > 3. Sometimes, your utilities get mysteriously shut
off,
> > necessitating a call to your plant facilities guy (for a
big
> company; for
> > little companies, you get to look for the breaker
yourself).
> > 4. Flooding.
> > 5. Wind can knock over your test antenna mast.
Securing the
> mast
> > each night adds another housekeeping task.
> > 6. Sunburn. (If I'm gonna get sunburned, let it be
with a
> yacht
> > beneath my feet.)
> > 7. Ants and rodents. (You are only one step short of
a
> picnic.)
> > 8. Snow. Ice. Wind chill factor. (Enough said.)
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > ------------------------
> > From: Gary McInturff
<gmcintu...@packetengines.com>
> > Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing
> > Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:11:30 -0700
> > To: 'Brent DeWitt' <bdew...@ix.netcom.com>, Allen
Tudor
> > <allen_tu...@pairgain.com>, emc-p...@ieee.org
> >
> >
> > > I'll agree with Brent, and others, the headaches
of a
> metal room
> > or the
> > > metal studs et al, in a building are going to make
you
> pull your
> > hair out.
> > > But there is an alternative to the parking lot.
You may
> want to
> > consider the
> > > roof. The ground reference can be put up there as
well,
> especially
> > if you
> > > are doing pre-compliance stuff. You don't have to
give up
> parking
> > space -
> > > which is sure to irate somebody. The roof gets a
little
> hot, but
> > that only
> > > gives you the opportunity to work in your cutoffs,
and
> showing up
> > to a
> > > meeting with the suits dressed like this is always
good
> for a
> > laugh!
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brent DeWitt
[SMTP:bdew...@ix.netcom.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 7:12 PM
> > > To: Allen Tudor; emc-p...@ieee.org
> > > Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing
> > >
> > > Allen,
> > >
> > > From bunches of years of designing and using
sites,
> what I
> > would
> > > suggest is,
> > > IMHO, use the money to reserve a large space
in the
> parking
> > lot free
> > > of
> > > obstacles. Current construction techniques
in
> buildings use
> > lots of
> > > steel
> > > "2x4s" for the walls and there will likely
be steel
> in the
> > floor
> > > above you.
> > > All of these contribute to resonances in the
> emissions
> > measurements
> > > that are
> > > far too difficult to want to deal with. The
best
> way to do
> > radiated
> > > measurements is to be a minimalist. Get as
far away
> from
> > any
> > > structure as
> > > you can, put down a simple hardware cloth
ground
> plane and
> > throw a
> > > nylon
> > > tent over the product if it rains.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Brent DeWitt
> > > Datex-Ohmeda Medical
> > > Louisville, CO
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> > > >
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On
> Behalf Of
> > Allen Tudor
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 1:27 PM
> > > > To: emc-p...@ieee.org
> > > > Subject: Precompliance Testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Our division is in the process of
constructing a
> new
> > building. I
> > > > have been told that I will be given a room
in
> which to
> > make
> > > > pre-compliance radiated emissions
measurements.
> However,
> > ferrite
> > > > tiles or cones are out of the question (I
have
> been told
> > that I
> > > > can hang "chicken-wire" on the walls if I
want
> to).
> > > >
> > > > Even though I am restricted in how much
money can
> be
> > spent, I
> > > > have the luxury of designing in features
as the
> building
> > is being
> > > > constructed.
> > > >
> > > > At a bare minimum, I think we should lay
sheet
> metal or
> > grid-wire
> > > > on the floor after the concrete is poured.
This
> ground
> > plane
> > > > should be grounded at each corner by
ground rods.
> I am
> > thinking
> > > > that if there is no steel framework near
the room,
> this
> > may
> > > > provide fairly good results.
> > > >
> > > > I would appreciate any recommendations on
other
> cheap
> > features
> > > > that I can design in while the building
is under
> > construction.
> > > > Also, what is the minimum size the room
should be?
> How
> > about
> > > > power wiring in the walls and in the
ceiling.
> Should any
> > > > measures be taken to prevent radiated
energy from
> coupling
> > into
> > > > power wiring?
> > > >
> > > > Perfection is not the key issue here:
> repeatability is.
> > We have
> > > > a local certified lab that I can compare
my
> measurements
> > with.
> > > > Once the room is complete, I can repeat my
> measurements at
> > the
> > > > certified lab and develop the necessary
correction
> > factors.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, my product is dc powered
shelf-level
> telecom
> > > equipment.
> > > >
> > > > Again, any advice will be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Allen Tudor, Compliance Engineer
> > > > PairGain Technologies
tel:
> (919)875-3382
> > > > 2431-153 Spring Forest Rd. fax:
> (919)876-1817
> > > > Raleigh, NC 27615
> email:
> > > > allen_tu...@pairgain.com
> >
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> > ed.pr...@cubic.com
> > Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab
> > Cubic Defense Systems
> > San Diego, CA. USA
> > 619-505-2780
> > Date: 05/03/1999
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