Exactly, this was a hypothetical discussion anyway.
Regards, Gert Gremmen, (Ing) ce-test, qualified testing =============================================== Web presence http://www.cetest.nl CE-shop http://www.cetest.nl/ce_shop.htm /-/ Compliance testing is our core business /-/ =============================================== >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Lou Guerin [mailto:lgue...@littlefeet-inc.com] >>Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:35 PM >>To: 'CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more...'; >>wo...@sensormatic.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >>Subject: RE: Application of CE Mark >> >> >>I just finished reading through the proposed new EMC Directive >>(EMCD 2000.5) >>and it says under Annex II, CE conformity marking, >>"The CE marking must be affixed to the product or to its data >>plate, unless >>it is not possible under reasonable technical conditions. Additionally it >>must be affixed to the packaging, if any, and to the accompanying >>documents." >> >>So, once the new EMC Directive is released, you will need to have the CE >>mark on the packaging. You might as well start now since it is not >>forbidden. >>Just my two cents worth. >>Lou Guerin >>Agency Approvals Manager >>Littlefeet, Inc. >> >>Normal disclaimers absolving my employer from responsibility for >>my remarks. >> >> -----Original Message----- >>From: CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more... >>[mailto:cet...@cetest.nl] >>Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:22 AM >>To: wo...@sensormatic.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >>Subject: RE: Application of CE Mark >> >> << File: Gert Gremmen.vcf >> Hello Richard, Cyril and group, >> >>Simply: there is no directive allowing the use of ce to boxes. >> >>The statement in the EMC-directive is: >> >>The manufacturer or his authorized representative established within the >>Community shall also affix the EC conformity mark to the apparatus or else >>to the packaging, instructions for use or guarantee certificate. >> >>It's written "or else" which implies that if the product is marked, the >>packaging et al may not. >>or else >>if the box is marked , the product may not ! >> >>Further more is says: THE packaging only, not A packaging, which limits >>the application to a specific box, contains the apparatus. >> >>In practice, wherever no misunderstanding is possible, ce marking all kind >>of >>packaging is tolerated, and can be helpful in customs procedures. >> >>I agree that this is a trivial thing, but what would the judge say ?? >> >>What would you read if it said: >> >>One of these guys will be president of the USA : Bush or else Al Gore ? >>Would you elect both for president ? (you almost did , isn't it? :<)) >> >>Regards, >> >>Gert Gremmen, (Ing) >> >>ce-test, qualified testing >> >>=============================================== >>Web presence http://www.cetest.nl >>CE-shop http://www.cetest.nl/ce_shop.htm >>/-/ Compliance testing is our core business /-/ >>=============================================== >> >> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf >>>>Of wo...@sensormatic.com >>>>Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:25 PM >>>>To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >>>>Subject: RE: Application of CE Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>It is news to me that placing the CE marking on packaging is >>forbidden if >>>>the directive does not specify the marking? Where did you find this >>>>information? >>>> >>>>Richard Woods >>>> >>>>---------- >>>>From: CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more... >>>>[SMTP:cet...@cetest.nl] >>>>Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:21 AM >>>>To: Praveen Rao; 'Nick Williams'; binno...@ems-t.com >>>>Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >>>>Subject: RE: Application of CE Mark >>>> >>>>Hi Praveen, >>>> >>>>I would even attenuate that last statement. Officially the >>>>application of ce >>>>on boxes is forbidden so affixing "ce" would be just an invitation to >>>>search into the boxes .... >>>>:<)) >>>> >>>>I think it should make just no difference to customs if you do or do not >>>>affix the sign, but >>>>as they are human too..... >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>> >>>>Gert Gremmen, (Ing) >>>> >>>>ce-test, qualified testing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------- >>>>This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety >>>>Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. >>>> >>>>To cancel your subscription, send mail to: >>>> majord...@ieee.org >>>>with the single line: >>>> unsubscribe emc-pstc >>>> >>>>For help, send mail to the list administrators: >>>> Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com >>>> Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org >>>> >>>>For policy questions, send mail to: >>>> Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org >>>> >>>> >>
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