Muriel,
See answers below.

Scott Lacey

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From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf
Of Muriel Bittencourt de Liz
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 5:46 PM
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Subject: doubt on conducted emissions



Hello Group,

I have some doubts concerning conducted emissions:

1. I'll make a hypothetical case: Let's say I have 2 electronic
equipment (they can be switched mode power supplies). Equipment A
requires 100W. Equipment B requires 3W. Let's say that my readings of
conducted emissions, collected in a receiver, are:

[EMI of equipment A at f=200kHz]=90 dBuV

[EMI of equipment B at f=200kHz]=90 dBuV

Making some calculations, I evaluate the interference voltage relative
to 90dBuV ==>  EMI in volts= 31.6mV

Here begin my questions:

# This 31.6mV is a voltage that propagates on the mains wires. I
understand that the purpose of the EMC regulations (in the frequency
range of 150kHz-30MHz) is to prevent that this voltage interfere with a
radio receiver equipment or other electronic equipment. How long this
voltage propagates in the mains wires (until which distance it is
significant)??
A: Anything on the same branch circuit might be affected. The wire may also
act as an antenna and radiate the interference. It may also couple to other
circuits that run near it.

# Is there any difference between the 90dBuV that equipment A (100W)
generates to the 90dBuV that equipment B (3W) generates (Qualitative and
quantitative)??
A: No. Both are 90 dB relative to 1 uV. The interference, in this case 200
kHz, is mostly a result of circuit layout inefficiencies. The voltage rise
time (dv/dt) of the switching element is what generates the interference.
Regardless of power ratings, most switch-mode supplies operate at a nominal
primary voltage of either 150Vdc (110-120Vac in), or 300Vdc (230-240Vac in
or 110-120Vac doubler).

# This 31.6mV has a perturbing effect to the equipment A?? And to
equipment B??
A: This interference may have a perturbing effect to any equipment that is
sensitive at that frequency or one of its harmonics.

# Concluding: This voltage is perturbing only for radio receivers?? Is
this the goal of the regulations imposed by the agencies (CISPR, FCC,
etc.)???
A: This voltage may also affect sensitive analog instruments (causes shifts
of reading), may cause false clocking of digital circuits, and so forth. The
agencies attempt to address this issue in two ways. First, they set limits
for conducted and radiated emissions. Second, they (EC, etc.) require RF
immunity testing so that a piece of equipment will not be adversely
affected.

Thanks in advance for the answers

Regards

Muriel Bittencourt de Liz
Group for Conception and Analysis of Electromagnetic Devices
GRUCAD/EEL/UFSC
Florianópolis, SC
Brazil

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