I want to thank all those who responded to my query. This question was posed to me from a non-member and, since I have no experience with other NRTL's except UL, I had no definite answer to give. Also, since some members responded only the "sender" (myself) and not "to all", I am summarizing all the responses received: The following NRTL's require that their safety mark be affixed at the specified factory locations:
* CSA. So specified in the Product Service Agreement, Section 1.2(b). * Intertek Testing Service (ETL). Specified in the Listing Agreement. * Factory Mutual. Where specified was not provided. Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com Lucent Technologies, Switching Solutions Group Intelligent Network and Messaging Solutions -----Original Message----- From: Kazimier Gawrzyjal [mailto:k...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:53 AM To: Kazimier Gawrzyjal; 'Lyons, Jim'; 'Grant, Tania (Tania)'; 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: RE: Application of agency safety markings Sorry folks...need more coffee today as the info I added wasn't an answer Tania's question. I've found the same requirement in the CSA Product Service agreement, section 1.2 (b). Again, my opinion and not that of Sanmina Canada ULC. Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal, P. Eng. Sr. Product Safety Engineer ---------------------------------------------- Sanmina Canada ULC Wireless Development Centre 2924 11 Street NE Calgary, Alberta Canada, T2E 7L7 tel: 403-769-4805 (ESN 758) fax: 403-769-4813 (ESN 758) e-mail: k...@nortelnetworks.com > -----Original Message----- From: Gawrzyjal, Kazimier [WDC:C149:EXCH] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:47 AM To: 'Lyons, Jim'; 'Grant, Tania (Tania)'; 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: RE: Application of agency safety markings Tania, With UL, I've found the requirement to apply the listing mark at the approved factory location gets invoked in the FUS Procedure, very first page identifying the Listee, applicant and possibly the manufacturing location and the CCN (a one page document at the start of the FUS procedure....sorry to the UL folks but I'm not sure what the page is called). Section General of the FUS also reflects the requirement. Finally, this requirement is further indicated in the original Follow Up Service Agreement, signed by UL and the "Subscriber" sections 1 and 2. I assume a similar process requirement is held by other NRTL's. Was the option of field investigations or the like explored at all? It's often more expensive and good for a one-shot type of application or quickie field deployment but it can get the job done. My 2 cents and not that of Sanmina Canada ULC. Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal, P. Eng. Sr. Product Safety Engineer ---------------------------------------------- Sanmina Canada ULC Wireless Development Centre 2924 11 Street NE Calgary, Alberta Canada, T2E 7L7 tel: 403-769-4805 (ESN 758) fax: 403-769-4813 (ESN 758) e-mail: k...@nortelnetworks.com -----Original Message----- From: Lyons, Jim [ mailto:jim.ly...@gtech.com <mailto:jim.ly...@gtech.com> ] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:44 AM To: 'Grant, Tania (Tania)'; 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: RE: Application of agency safety markings I recently had a situation where we had transferred some completed product to a warehouse to free up floor production space while an ETL investigation was still underway, but before we had obtained the ETL approval. ETL would not allow us to simply go to the warehouse and affix the markings even though the units were identical to the ones still on the production line, and 100% had undergone the required hipot and ground testing. We were required to transport the units back to the factory for the sole purpose of marking them. So, add ETL to the list with UL. James W. Lyons Manager - Product Compliance GTECH Corp. 55 Technology Way West Greenwich, RI 02817 Tel (401) 392-7723 Fax (401) 392-4955 Email jim.ly...@gtech.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Grant, Tania (Tania) [ mailto:tgr...@lucent.com <mailto:tgr...@lucent.com> ] > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:52 PM > To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' > Subject: Application of agency safety markings > Importance: High > > Does anyone know whether NRTLs, other than UL, have the requirement that > their labels must only be applied at the factory location? And if so, is > this an urban legend, or is this actually specified somewhere in writing? > > I know and respect UL's position but I was wondering whether other NRTLs > in this country have the same requirement. Any replies or experience you > might have had are welcome! > > Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com > Lucent Technologies, Switching Solutions Group > Intelligent Network and Messaging Solutions > ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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