EN60825/IEC825 substitutes the word "Laser" with "LED" per section 1.1. So, all requirements that apply to laser devices also apply to LED devices for this standard. Generally speaking, manufacturer specs usually suffice for support of LED classification for products for Europe, as long as they specifically call out the classification and contain some form of data to support it.
You would be fighting a loosing battle trying to argue the exemption of LEDs with TUV or any other Europe Notified Body - don't even try. The US (FDA-CDRH) has taken the position (Docket 93N-0044) that they are exempting LEDs from the rules based on the premise that they (the FDA) are not aware of any injuries that have occurred from LED radiation (I guess that they will wait until Grandma's physician sends that letter). In actuality, the FDA has seemed to shy away from LED regulation in part due to an implied fear of negative reaction from LED manufacturers as a result of “controversy that developed (by inclusion of LEDs into IEC-825-1) because manufacturers of LEDs became aware that the conditions for measuring radiant power and energy to enable product hazard classification resulted in an exaggeration of the hazard of many LEDs”. So, if your product contains a LED, do not concern yourself with FDA regulation. It is my understanding, though, that the state of Georgia regulates LEDs and ALL classes of Laser products. Anyone care to comment on this? Bandele Jetstream Communications, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Gary McInturff Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 3:59 PM To: 'John Juhasz'; 'wo...@sensormatic.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: IEC 825 and Light Emitting diodes. John, I would love that to be the answer but I keep getting beat up by the various TUV's over this issue. It pretty much matches the comments made by Richard. We usually get through it with much heated debate and staring at the specifications sheets. Many, many LED vendors don't submit to the IEC for confirmation. (My opinion they shouldn't have to give, the power, the non-coherent light, the diffusing and a bunch of other stuff) I am not an expert at light transmission sources so I could be missing some pretty salient points here). Unfortunately, the guys reading the European standards at the TUV shops don't have the descretion to waive the requirement because it is imposed by the standards writting committees so they are stuck with trying to enforce it. Admittidly I haven't read the complete standard to see if the wording you suggest actually exists or how it can be use to get by the really low powered LED IEC 825 requirements. If you could forward the scope of the standard and the section you believe relieves this from the standard LED, I would be eternally grateful. We have ordered the standard but it hasn't arrived and I am trying once again to get a procudt with LED's through the maze. Thanks Gary -----Original Message----- From: John Juhasz [mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 1:30 PM To: 'wo...@sensormatic.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: IEC 825 and Light Emitting diodes. Richard, I don't believe that the standard applies to LED indicators instead it is for 'LED-based optics' used in fiber optic transmission. John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY -----Original Message----- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [ mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com <mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com> ] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 2:16 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: IEC 825 and Light Emitting diodes. Some of our ITE products have LED indicators. A well know European based agency has evaluated them based upon the manufacturer's specifications and our circuit designs. Yes, fault conditions must be considered but usually there is sufficient information in the data sheets to indicate that the device is compliant at the higher voltage. In a couple of cases, we have had some difficulty due to the lack of sufficient information on the data sheet; and we had to obtain more information from the manufacturer. We have never had to perform emission testing, and we have not been instructed to include the laser marking even though we display the agency's compliance mark. Richard Woods ---------- From: ricklinf...@phobos.com [SMTP:ricklinf...@phobos.com] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 1:33 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: IEC 825 and Light Emitting diodes. Hi group, When evaluating IEC 825-1 for fiber optic LAN transceivers I came across requirements for LED's. I have known that the EU had some requirements for LED emission. Being on the US side of the pond I have not seen how it is applied. Are manufactures doing fault testing on LED to ensure the class 1 levels are maintained? Are manufacturers labeling products with LED's (this covers just about every electronic product I know of) with the "CLASS 1 LED PRODUCT" as required in 5.12 of IEC 825? 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