Ralph,

some comments on your points.

First I would suggest a lot of information on this  question can be found at
"www.scc.ca".

Secondly and very briefly  as Art Michaels stated ULC stands for Underwriters 
Laboratories of Canada. ULC is a
certification body accredited as is CSA and 14 others by the Standards Council 
of Canada. Again a great deal of
information can be
found at the SCC site.

Hope this helps.

Yours truly,

G. Rae Dulmage
Manager
Standards Programs
Standards Council of Canada

Ralph Cameron wrote:

> CSA accepts approval by ULC.  The C is indicative of Canadian UL.  UL is
> normally not accpetable by itself in Canada
>
> Ralph Cameron
> EMC Consulting and Suppresion of Consumer Electronics
> (after sale)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Horst Haug" <innova...@t-online.de>
> To: "Peter Merguerian" <pmerguer...@itl.co.il>; <am...@westin.org>;
> <emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:24 AM
> Subject: AW: UL vs CSA (IT product)
>
> >
> > Amund,
> >
> > UL accept components approved by CSA and CSA accepts components approved
> by
> > UL.  A CSA approved Power Supply within an end product with UL approval is
> > no problem any more (that is my experience).
> > The UL PAG "practical application guide" about is 1.5.002.  I send it to
> you
> > in a separate EMAIL.
> >
> > With best regards
> > Horst Haug
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> > [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]Im Auftrag von Peter Merguerian
> > Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2001 09:44
> > An: 'am...@westin.org'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> > Betreff: RE: UL vs CSA (IT product)
> >
> >
> > Amend,
> >
> > See my answers in body of your message.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > UL and/or CSA certification are mandatory within the electrical safety
> area,
> > to
> > have access to the US and Canadian marked. Right ?
> >
> > I know there are some differences between them, the certification fee, the
> > certification-handling period and the number of audit/year.
> >
> > My questions are:
> > 1.Do they have the same status?
> >
> > Peter: Yes, to a certain extent. You must check the scope of their
> > acceditations in OSHA's and Standard Council of Canada's websites.
> >
> >
> > 2.What requirements do the end users/ buyers have, do most of them prefer
> > one
> > of the approvals?
> >
> > Peter: Depends on the categories. But most end-users are not aware that
> > other NRTLs are capable of giving the same Listing service.
> > You must educate them.
> >
> > 3.Do we have to go for both of them?
> >
> > Peter: One is enough, but as I said above, you must educate end-users to
> > accept and also check if the test house is accredited for the particular
> > standards.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Amund Westin, Oslo/Norway
> >
> >
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