For those interested, there was an article in Compliance Engineering in November 1999 comparing CNS 13438:1997 to CISPR 22:1993. It also had some brief comments on lab accreditation.
The article can be found on the web at http://www.ce-mag.com/archive/1999/novdec/Lin.html On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:15:41 -0700, <gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com> wrote: >Aha, the thread just hit the topic I was just waiting for, and I know this >isn't going to be an easy question. > Some countries won't take the data taken at a NIST accredited lab > without further agreements being signed. Taiwan is an example. You can still > do it in country but your lab has to have some sort of arrangement with > Taiwan. A few, I don't have a clue to the percentage, labs have this and for > the extra translation fee etc, you can pretty much get the data you need > while doing a normal US/European set of tests, radiated emissions and > immunity. > Some countries, like Russia will take the NIST (A2LA or NVLAP > accredited) EMC and CB data, but require a review and filing fee. > A third set like Korea still want in-country testing. There is only a > single public lab in Canada that has an agreement with Korea to take the data > (now both emissions and immunity). At least as far as I currently know. > Are their any more of the third set of countries that I should be > concerned about. Sorry I know this is a wide open question. > As a small company my current MO is to obtain the core countries that > we would immediate try to open as markets. Basically, North America, and > Western Europe, and Japan. I then just try to be prepared with CB data and > NIST lab data for those countries that essentially want to review that data > on their own for acceptance. > Folks like Korea, just have to wait until our financials show us that > it is worth spending the money for what is basically a retest of the > equipment for a specific country. Sales, Marketing and I are on the same page > to this point, but they certainly would like to know those countries where I > need to re-test as soon as possible, both from a cost and a time perspective. > While I have asked that they help provide this information from the > in-country sales or distributors, that has met with limited success. > Anybody aware of other, possible more obscure markets, that are still > looking for in-country testing. > Gary > >-----Original Message----- >From: Barbara Judge [mailto:bju...@ccsemc.com] >Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:51 PM >To: 'Fred Borda'; rehel...@mmm.com >Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: RE: CNS Standards > > > >Hi Fred, > >Is that an official translation of CNS 13438? By the way in visiting your >website I notice that you stipulate that "In-country testing is required for >most equipment" Under the APEC Mutual Recognition Arrangement, both Taiwan >and the US being signatories, it is not required that testing be conducted >in Taiwan. Testing may be conducted by a Conformity Assessment Body (CAB), >in the U.S., that has been Nominated by NIST and confirmed by DGT. We are >still in Phase 1 of the Arrangement so submission to DGT is still required. >Once we move to Phase 2 the confirmed CABs under Phase 2 should be capable >of certifying products for DGT. I'd be happy to discuss our capability with >you off-line. > >Best Regards, >Barbara >_______________________________________ >Barbara L. Judge >Vice President >Compliance Certification Services >Designated TCB and CAB >561F Monterey Road >Morgan Hill, CA 95037 >408-463-0885 ext.104 >Fax: 408-463-0888 >e-mail: bju...@ccsemc.com >http://www.ccsemc.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fred Borda [mailto:fbo...@typeapproval.com] >Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:22 AM >To: rehel...@mmm.com >Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: Re: CNS Standards > > > >Hello Bob, > >Compliance International can provide the CNS 13438 standard for you. Please >contact me off-list for details. > >Best regards, > >-Fred Borda >Compliance International >www.typeapproval.com > > > >At PM 12:05 04/22/02 -0500, rehel...@mmm.com wrote: > >>Can anyone provide a source to purchase Taiwan EMC standards (CNS) in >>English? >> >>Thank you, >>Bob Heller >>3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 >>St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 >>Tel: 651- 778-6336 >>Fax: 651-778-6252 >> >> >---- >Fred Borda >Director >Marketing & Business Development >Compliance International >www.typeapproval.com >-------------------------------------------------- >The experts in telecommunications equipment type approval >across the Asia-Pacific region >-------------------------------------------------- >4713 First Street, Suite 280 >Pleasanton, California 94566-7362 USA >Tel +1.925.417.5571 (direct) >Fax +1.925.417.5574 >Mobile +1.650.740.5762 >fbo...@typeapproval.com ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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