The R&TTE Directive, Article 1 "Scope and aim", Clause 5 states:
"5. This Directive shall not apply to apparatus exclusively used for
activities concerning public security, defence, State security (including
the economic well-being of the State in the case of activities pertaining to
State security matters) and the activities of the State in the area of
criminal law."

Therefore this Directive does not apply to equipment used EXCLUSIVELY for
military use. Thus weapons aiming radar would be exempt but air-traffic
control radar might not be if it was also controlling civilian traffic.

Nevertheless, even if such radar were claimed to be exempt, it could still
interfer with radar used for civilian purposes - and after Sept 11th, it
might be every difficult to justify that an ATC radar for military use does
not also have civilian applications and vice-versa! 

So I think an exemption could be difficult to argue legally -
interpretations may vary between EU countries and their differing legal
system,

John Allen
Thales
Bracknell, UK


-----Original Message-----
From: plaw...@west.net [mailto:plaw...@west.net]
Sent: 31 January 2002 21:21
To: EMC-PSTC
Subject: Re: EEC compliance for a ground based radar



Does operating frequency affect the issue?
If the radar system is in an official ISM frequency band, use CISPR 11, but
if
operating outside the those bands treat is as an RTTE device?

Also, what about the market served?  The original poster seems to have a
position with a military contractor.  Does CISPR 11 and/or the RTTE
directive
apply to military equipment?


On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:07:02 -0500, richwo...@tycoint.com wrote:
>Hold on a second. Why is it considered ISM and not RTTE? Seems to me that
it
>is subject to the RTTE Directive in that it uses the spectrum for
>communications with a transponder - active or passive as the case may be.
>
>Richard Woods
>Sensormatic Electronics
>Tyco International
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:48 PM
>To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>
>Subject: Re: EEC compliance for a ground based radar
>I read in !emc-pstc that Woodcox, Edmund A <edmund.a.wood...@lmco.com>
>wrote (in <9efd49e2fb59d411aaba0008c7e675c0073a5...@emss04m10.ems.lmco.c
>om>) about 'EEC compliance for a ground based radar', on Tue, 29 Jan
>2002:
>>I have a ground based radar that is somewhat largish and I need to obtain
>CE
>>compliance for this product.  I've reviewed the journal and am wondering
if
>>a product like this is considered ISM or would the generic limits apply?
>>Anybody out there have any experience with this?  
>
>It's an 'intentional radiator' and therefore ISM. EN55011 applies. ETSI
>standards may also apply.

>To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>Subject: EEC compliance for a ground based radar
>From: "Woodcox, Edmund A" <edmund.a.wood...@lmco.com>
>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:44:28 -0500
>
>Hi Group,
>
>I have a ground based radar that is somewhat largish and I need to obtain
CE
>compliance for this product.  I've reviewed the journal and am wondering if
>a product like this is considered ISM or would the generic limits apply?
>Anybody out there have any experience with this?  
>
>       Edmund A Woodcox
>       Specialty Engineering 
>       Electromagnetic Environmental Effects
>       =====================================
>       LOCKHEED MARTIN
>       Naval Electronics & Surveillance Systems-Syracuse
>       PO Box 4840
>       EP5-D5    MD45
>       Syracuse, NY 13221-4840
>       ===============================
>       Phone: 315-456-2650
>       Fax:      315-456-0509
>       Email: edmund.a.wood...@lmco.com

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