Yes that will work too. I like the SNA or VNA because they calibrate out the
cable loss. As I understand it, one connects the RX and TX antenna cables
together and then performs a two-port cal. Then connect the cables to their
respective antennas and read S21 or S12 (should be the same either way). Then
only the AF needs to be factored in.  

If I understand the OATS cal procedure, the RX antenna height is moved from 1
meter to 4 meters and readings are taken. Now this is the strange part: The
readings are averaged. Is this right? Now think about it- when a DUT is
tested, the RX antenna is moved until maximum signal is achieved- not the
average signal as the RX antenna height is swept. This method makes a DUT look
"hotter" than it really is and makes the site uncertainty appear larger. 

If the cal consisted on taking only the maximum signal, then the correct
height could be determined by simulations and the antenna could be swept close
to this height. Much less data to take. These antenna heights will of course
be different for horizontal and vertical polarization.

   Dave Cuthbert
   Micron Technology


From: Luke Turnbull [mailto:luke.turnb...@trw.com]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:24 AM
To: emcp...@aol.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; drcuthbert
Subject: RE: another OATS question


Or a Spectrum analyser with tracking generator.

>>> <drcuthb...@micron.com> 06/20/03 06:58pm >>>
Renting a VNA or SNA would really speed things up.
 
  Dave

From: emcp...@aol.com [mailto:emcp...@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:02 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org 
Subject: another OATS question


Hello everyone,

I have worked with sites that used the hardware cloth (screen) over concrete
in the past.  When the tears would happen, they would patch that area with
screen to cover the hole and maintain continuity.  Can this patching create a
problem with site attenuation, if there are too many patches?  I was planning
to build the site with concrete underneath the screen.  

Also, do you know of a way to do the site attenuation faster?  In the past, I
have used tunable dipoles (takes forever) and also broadband antennas, which
is a little faster.  Normally, I have done the site attenuation with the
signal generator about 10 feet behind the transmitting antenna.  This means
that you have to go outside, change the frequency, go inside and make the
measurement, then back outside again.  All I have to work with is a signal
generator and spectrum analyzer.  Would it make a difference to have the
signal generator inside the building (this means that the output cable to the
antenna would be approx. 30 feet long.)  I guess as long as this long cable
for the transmit antenna is counted in the "V direct" reading, it should be
ok?  Making site measurements faster will help me evaluate my proposed site
location.

Thanks for your input.
Tim Pierce





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