Forgot! E Fields from a true dipole do drop off at the inverse cube rate also, It's just that the fields almost always get referenced to a ground or ground plane which makes them drop off for all practical purposes at the rate of the inverse square.
- Robert - > From: Y W Leung <leungderek2...@yahoo.com.hk> > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:56:25 +0800 (CST) > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: Near field H-field measurement. > > Dear experts, > > I am measuring the fundamental and spurious emissions > from an EUT ( with > interanl loop antenna) of fundamental frequencies of > about 50kHz to 200kHz. > The measuring range of spurious emission is up to 1GHz. > > The limits are according to a local standard from a local > regulatory body. > The emission limits for both fundamental and spurious > emissions are quoted > in electric field ( dBuV/m) and magnetic field (dBuA/m), > means the emissions > from the EUT must not exceed the limits of both E field > AND H-field. The > spectrum analyzer display (dBuV/m) because it already > included the > transducer factor ( magnetic field antenna factor:-55dB/m > and the cable > loss). > > I am using EMCO 6502 loop antenna for the radiated > emission measurement at > 10 measuring distance. Since the limits are quoted by the > regulatory body > are at 30 and 300 meters distance, so I use extrapolation > factor (value of > 3) i.e. 20 log (300/10)^3 to determine the corresponding > limit at 10 meters > from a 300 meters limit which equals to 88.3dB mark up > for the H-field. > > My questions are : > > 1. From theory, if both Tx and Rx antennas are loops > antenna, under near > field conditions, H-fields is predominant, so the H-field > is inversely > proportional to D^3, so I use the extrapolation factor 3. > For H-field > measurement , I just use the reading from the spectrum > analyzer plus the > cable loss and magnetic antenna factor (-5dB), and use > this calculated value > to compare with the extrapolation value. please correct > me if I am wrong. ( > I know there is another approach of extrapolate the > measured value and > compare with the limits). Please correct me the method > and extrapolation > factor if I am wrong. > > > 2. Since the requirement of the limits are in both > H-field and E-field. > Which extrapolation factor (2 or 3) should be used to > determine the limit > from i.e. 300 meters to 10 meters? The reason of > supporting if use 2 is > because under near field coditions, the E-field is > inversely proportional to > D^2. But now both Tx and Rx antennas are loop antennas, > so finally I use 3 > to extrapolate the limit of E-field ( i.e. from 300 to 10 > meters) and > compare with the spectrum analyzer reading, please > comment and/or correct me > if I am wrong. > > Thanks advance for your any comment or opinion. > > Regards, > > Derek Leung. > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc