Thanks John. Can you tell me if "margins" are calculated into the limits? It seems to me that reasonable people would do this.
Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 ========================= John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.c o.uk> To Sent by: emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org cc Subject 08/02/2005 03:18 Re: Request for info on CE Mark AM penalties rehel...@mmm.com wrote (in <of4dfcba4f.8b0f8edb-on86257051.002a7817-86257051.002af...@mmm.com>) about 'Request for info on CE Mark penalties', on Tue, 2 Aug 2005: >Dave, I have been trying for some time now to find out just exactly how >limits lines were derived. Can you point me to a study/report/data that >can show me (or more importantly, others here at work) just how the >limits were derived? No one seems to be able to. Derived from a mixture of experience, experiments and theoretical studies. I meant what I said about setting the limits so as to reduce interference complaints to an acceptable minimum. If the number of complaints starts to increase, steps are taken to tighten the limits. There is less motivation to relax limits if complaints fall to very low levels, as may happen in Europe now that immunity is controlled. You may find this helpful: CISPR/TR 16-4-4 {Ed.1.0} Specification for radio disturbance and immunity measuring apparatus and methods - Part 4-4: Uncertainties, statistics and limit modelling - Statistics of complaints and a model for the calculation of limits. Note 'a model for the calculation of limits'. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. Deadlines are 90% of deadliness. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc