Carl wrote: 2. A manufacturer certified to perform their own UL compliance subject to verification by UL, can the manufacturer build systems while waiting for final approvals; and would it be possible for the manufacturer to build and ship such a product without applying the UL mark?
Same rules as if you submitted the product to UL for certification, Technically you are not allowed to mark product with the UL mark which was built before you received the UL approval letter allowing the marking.......You can however build and mark product once UL issues you a certification letter (NOA letter) and don't have to wait for the UL descriptive report to be issued as this can take 3-4 weeks to make it through the UL system.............You can always ship with out the UL Mark but as mentioned there are a number of States in the U.S. which legally require a Nationally Recognized Test Lab (NTRL) Mark on the product to sell introduce it into the State...... Does this answer the question?? From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Richards, Carl Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 2:12 PM To: Jim Bacher; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: UL approvals Jim and All who responded, Many thanks for all the input, most of which confirmed what I thought I knew. The current un-answered question is regard to the UL/Manufacturer compliancy scheme, hopefully someone will read this who can answer it. All the best Carl Carl Richards, Regulatory Compliance Manager, Aspect Software 2, The Square Stockley Park, Uxbridge, UB11 1AD, United Kingdom +44 (0)208 589 1461 Office +44 (0)870 460 1950 Fax +44 (0)7875 27 1461 Mobile www.aspect.com From: Jim Bacher [mailto:jim.bac...@paxar.com] Sent: 10 April 2006 18:27 To: Richards, Carl; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: UL approvals Carl, others have answered your question about marking, but keep in mind that there are state laws and federal regulations in the USA that require that all products have a NRTL listing. So if you are talking about prototypes, no big deal. However, if you are talking about production products, you could run into issues. Ref: OSHA: 29 CFR 1910, NEC 110-2 and Oregon law : 479.610 http://landru.leg.state.or.us/ors/479.html Jim Jim Bacher Senior Engineer Paxar Americas, Inc. 170 Monarch Lane Miamisburg, Ohio 45342 Voice: 937-865-2020 Fax: 937-865-2048 email: jim.bac...@paxar.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
