I have been doing some research over the past few months regarding the
susceptibility of GFCIs and AFCIs to interference.  I have yet to uncover
any documented evidence of cellular telephones or other wireless devices
interfering with these devices.  Even with the large antennas of the
wiring, it is difficult to couple enough energy to cause a problem.  GFCIs
and AFCIs are somewhat susceptible to conducted interference, but the
designs have been greatly improved over the years.

As a general rule, you don't want GFCIs and AFCIs in circuits for life
safety applications.  They should not be used for fire alarm systems, fire
pump systems or emergency lighting.  These devices should definitely be
avoided for any application where a power interruption will cause
significant financial harm or put lives at risk.

As Doug Smith noted, Information Technology Equipment (ITE) should not be
used on GFCI circuits.  IEC 60950-1 allows an ITE device with a non-locking
plug to have an earth leakage current of up to 3.5 mA.  A GFCI in North
America is set to trip at around 5 mA.  If you plug in your computer,
monitor, printer, scanner, cell phone charger and cordless phone base into
a power strip on a GFCI protected circuit, you may easily find it tripping
regularly.

AFCIs work differently, but they too can be very susceptible to conducted
noise from ITE.  I have worked with some that are well tested for immunity
to conducted noise and some which regularly trip in ITE environments.  In
the interest of full disclosure, I will note that APC is a subsidiary of
Schneider Electric which also owns Square-D.  I am aware of extensive
testing of the Square-D devices for conducted immunity and they are not
among the devices for which I have found problems.

Ted Eckert
American Power Conversion/MGE
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In a similar vein to this thread, in January of this year, I posted a
request for information regarding wireless phones interfering with GFCI
devices.  This same request was also posted on the EMC-PSTC and
Electrical Safety IEEE Community pages, in order to broaden the audience
and to alleviate one expressed concern regarding the confidentiality
statement that (no doubt) appears at the bottom of this e-mail.

Unfortunately, there's been no responses that I'm aware of.  I've
duplicated that request, below.  Any input would be appreciate.  If
there is a concern about passing the information through me, I can put
anyone interested in responding in touch with the appropriate staff at
the TIA.



***ORIGINAL REQUEST***

The TIA (Telecommunication Industry Association) is looking for any
information on incidents of wireless phones (cordless, cell, etc.)
interfering with ground fault circuit interrupters (GFCIs). If anyone
has any information relating to this, please let me know and I will
forward information to the interested group.


Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
ptar...@ieee.org

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