> From: John Woodgate > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:29 AM > > Tarver, Peter writes: > > >This is not as simple as you put it. > > The same could be said of ANY piece of technical data that > needs to be in the manual. So I don't think it's valid.
I disagree. What you're suggesting is recording a test result after document publication for FCS and even later for product churn. A single ECN in a company of any but the smallest size and with a quality management system requires participation by several individuals, apart from those that make the editorial document change and can cost thousands of monetary units to implement. Then there's the expense for performing a test not called out as a type test by most product standards, additional quality audit measures and inspection points ... > >I think you underestimate the cost and ease of maintaining such a > >database for anything other than a small shop, who are > unlikely to own the test equipment. > > It's very easy to do this with Excel or any spreadsheet. And just as easy to accidentally delete it or have a disk crash ... so there's still a need for "emergency recover" measures and keeping a hard copy. And would authorities reviewing any such log accept an electronically kept database without a proper log that includes a signature or initial and traceable calibration data on the test instrument? Or repeating the testing themselves? And if 'they' test themselves, why would the shop bother to take that kind of time and effort when their tax £ are working for them? > >The test equipment I have in-house for type testing is at least 30 > >years old and not likely to be replaced. It's data storage > function is at the end of my arm. > > I won't tell your customers. (;-) Oh, good. The calibration sticker came off in the shower. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@ieee.org CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail message and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any prints thereof. ABSENT AN EXPRESS STATEMENT TO THE CONTRARY HEREINABOVE, THIS E-MAIL IS NOT INTENDED AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR A WRITING. Notwithstanding the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or the applicability of any other law of similar substance and effect, absent an express statement to the contrary hereinabove, this e-mail message its contents, and any attachments hereto are not intended to represent an offer or acceptance to enter into a contract and are not otherwise intended to bind the sender, Sanmina-SCI Corporation (or any of its subsidiaries), or any other person or entity. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________
