Kris,

If you have an electronic copy of the standard, do a search on "IT" and
determine if the clause is applicable.  For instance, if you do so with IEC
60950-1, 2nd Edition, you will hit on 1.5.8, concerning components connected
between line and earth.  Not applicable.  Next is a installation manual note
in 1.7 as to whether your equipment has been evaluated for IT systems--hold
the thought there.  Then you go to 2.7.4, or overcurrent protection.  The
clause says that you don't have to be concerned about protection against
earth faults if you do not have an earth connection, and you only need one
protective device against overcurrent.  Next is 3.4.6 concerning
disconnects.  The wall plug-in unit is your disconnect.  Next, and possible
most significantly, if your Class II unit had a heater, 4.3.7 would require
a temperature-sensing device to disconnect both the line and neutral
conductor.  I suspect your plug-in unit contains no heaters, but if it did,
and you only had only one cutout, you can still draw current through the
unprotected supply lead to earth even after the line conductor cutout opens
if your impedance to earth is not infinite in the IT circuit.  Lastly, you
go to 5.1.3, or touch current, and since this section does not exempt Class
II products, you have to consider touch current and the applicable circuits
in IEC 60990.

Going through the above, I would say yes, you can consider IT supplies for
Class II wall-plug in units under IEC 60950-1, but there is probably no
impact.

Regards,

Don Gies, N.C.E
Senior Product Compliance Engineer
Alcatel-Lucent
Murray Hill, NJ  07974-0636 USA



From: Carpentier Kristiaan [mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@thomson.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:59 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: Class II PSU for IT power systems

Brian,

I am referring to IT power distribution system and a class II wall plug,
thus w/o a PE pin.
My assumption is that this wall plug does not have to comply with
additional requirements related to IT power distribution system because
there is no connection to PE. Nevertheless, some CB reports state that
tests have been done on the wall plug for IT power distribution system
and some other don't.

Best regards,
 
Kris Carpentier
Regulatory & Approvals


From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian
O'Connell
Sent: vrijdag 5 oktober 2007 15:50
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Class II PSU for IT power systems

If I am not missing something obvious, the construction answers the
question.

Class II construction does not have to depend on a protective earth for
protection against shock, so there is no need for the ground pin.

Perhaps we have a 'terminology disconnect' - are you referring to an "IT
power distribution system", or perhaps a "Class 2 output" ?

Note that for connection to an IT power distribution system (which could
be either isolated or separated by some impendence from any 'system'
earthing), it may not be possible to clearly indicate the earthed
conductor to mains, so there are additional requirements for mains
disconnect.

I have advised designers, for equipment designed to be connected to an
IT
power distribution system, to not rely on any ground bonding for
protection against shock.

Additional note - UL listings will sometimes indicate "IT Power Source";
this is NOT referring to an IT power distribution system.

luck,
Brian 

 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of
 > Carpentier Kristiaan
 > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:18 AM
 > To: emc-p...@ieee.org
 > Subject: Class II PSU for IT power systems
 > 
 > Hi Group,
 > 
 > Does it make sense to test a Class II wall plug PSU for IT 
 > power systems
 > as there is no PE pin on such a PSU?
 > Some CB reports mention that testing for IT power systems is done and
 > some don't.
 > 
 > Best regards,
 >  
 > Kris Carpentier
 > Regulatory & Approvals

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