You will also require a calibration measurement uncertainty estimate to comply with ISO 17025 and I would recommend a calibration report (test report).
Jim __________________________ James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 858-485-3788 - fax (unattended) From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Derek Walton Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:45 AM To: Larry Stillings Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: DIY Equipment and Calibration HI Larry, was this really required, in 17025, or is your assessor/accrediting body asking? If you are following a standard calibration method, I'm not sure you are REQUIRED for have a procedure. That said,I believe strongly in writing detailed work instructions ( what we call them), photographs really really help. Thoughts? Derek. Larry Stillings wrote: > One other thing to add to this thread (as we just went through an audit) is > you will need to write a test procedure for the calibration (preferably with > pictures of the calibration setup). > > Larry Stillings > > -----Original Message----- > From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:45 AM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: DIY Equipment and Calibration > > I believe that you will also need your calibrating equipment traceable to a > National Standards group such as NIST in the US. > > Bob Heller > 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 > St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 > Tel: 651- 778-6336 > Fax: 651-778-6252 > ============================================================== > > > > "Spencer, David > H" > <David.Spencer@xe To > rox.com> <cmander...@micron.com> > Sent by: <emc-p...@ieee.org> > emc-p...@ieee.org cc > > Subject > 12/11/2008 08:04 RE: DIY Equipment and Calibration > AM > > > > > > > > > > Chris, > > I've built several CDN's. Repaired both CDN's and LISN's. Never messed > with building an EM clamp. Too much hassle IMO. > > As far as calibration, I try to calibrate as much as is practical "in > house". All the LISN's, ISN's, CDN's, cable loss, amplifier performance, > etc etc . But in reality those "calibrations" are just "verifications". > To perform those verifications most people are lacking a network impedance > analyzer. The test jigs or setups are easy to build or cheap to purchase. > > Regarding an accrediting organization accepting the results, you'll need a > process. You can't go wrong by referencing CISPR 16 et. al. in that > respect. You'll need the verification data. AND, you'll need the > measurement uncertainty. > The last item, you can gather from your impedance analyzer accuracy > specifications (and calibration report) and the test jig VSWR & losses. > > As for where you can send you in-house built test items, most any ISO17025 > test lab which calibrates EMC or similar devices can perform the > calibration. > > > Regards > > David Spencer > EMC Engineer > Xerox Corp. > > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of > cmander...@micron.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:00 PM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: DIY Equipment and Calibration > > > > I'm aware of some people making their own CDN's and LISN's among > other things and I have few questions about that. > 1) Has anyone tried to build their own EM Injection clamp? > If so, were you able to find a ferrite supplier that sold > half-ring cores? > 2) Is it acceptable to calibrate your own equipment? > If so, how do accrediting bodies view this, and what > documentation will they want to see? > If not, does anyone have suggestions about where in the US I > can send such homemade equipment for calibration (preferably Western > US to save on shipping)? > > > Thanks, > Chris > > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc discussion list. 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