I see this as having deep roots. Many young people start College without the background to appreciate our discipline. These students have never listened to radio; they've only turned on a box or a compact player/stereo and stuck headphones in their ears. They will learn, if they take up engineering (Engineering? Yeah, they make lots of money; put me down for engineering.) about Faraday, Ohm, Volta , Hertz, Lenz and Maxwell, (MAYBE, about Farnsworth and Zworykin) but what they learn will not have reality to them beyond the mathematics necessary to describe certain physical phenomena they never expect to encounter. That may exaggerate -- a little. Well and all, they are more educated than I, even so. But I've been doing this work 25 years, and when in 1983, I walked into an EMC facility at Wang Labs in Massachusetts, I was able to do and understand the tests they needed done, never having done them before. It is amazing how little one need know, to know more than others. Maybe the schools need to hand out crystal sets. Or is it too late to awaken imaginations by then? Are these people going to school simply to make money? We are a distinct minority among the engineering staff where we work. We are a cost center, not a profit center, and often reminded of that. We're not romantic, We're not even attractive nerds. And schools must make money. Given that the marketplace doesn't make us look like a good bet, the institutions you found may be all the market will bear. Cortland, KA5S
----- Original Message ----- From: Alan E Hutley <mailto:a...@nutwooduk.co.uk> To: EMC-PSTC <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> Sent: 12/15/2008 10:19:16 AM Subject: EMC Eduction and Training Hello All I recently posted a request for information on Universities that offer EMC Educational activities. I thank those that responded but was very surprised by the very small number of Universities involved. I would like therefore to widen the debate. EMC Education and Training Behind EMC lays the Technology and Science of Electromagnetism, Signal Integrity and RF Engineering... EMC is a by-product of these disciplines. Over the past dozen or so years EMC has been largely, if not entirely, driven by Directives and Regulations. Around this scenario has evolved a specialised product industry together with consultants and soothsayers. Without the furore of this activity, EMC would almost certainly not have been on the RADAR to the extent that it has been. Could this be the reason why formal qualifications and academic training has not evolved at the same pace or magnitude? Is the apparent lack of resources committed to Training and Education due to the relevant organisations and Governments lack of understanding with respect to the complexity surrounding EMC... or are there other reasons. Invariably, or at least in many cases, Engineers seem to have ended up becoming EMC Engineers by default, not design. Does anyone actually set out with the sole purpose of becoming an EMC Engineer? Did you? I am interested in the views of others and finding out what resources are currently available, plus I would like to hear from Trainers, Educators, Course Presenters, EMC Engineers, Consultants and anyone else that can contribute to the debate by expressing their opinions. Thank you. Alan E Hutley The EMC Journal www.theemcjournal.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@ptcnh.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com>