I think you hit the nail on the head when referring to deep roots. I think the
color of the roots are green. I can remember tracing the steep decline in
engineering enrollment during the eighties to statements like 'engineers cause
pollution'. At the same time a salesman lambasted my conservative
(engineering) approach to investment by stating, 'If it had been up to you
engineers we would have never built the Golden Gate Bridge'. He was claiming
credit for the salesmen! Now we have politicians who can't read a thermometer
teaching global warming?  I think engineering needs better PR.

Fred Townsend
DC to Light


Cortland Richmond wrote: 

        I see this as having deep roots.  Many young people start College 
without the
background to appreciate our discipline.    These students have never listened
to radio; they've only turned on a box or a compact player/stereo and stuck
headphones in their ears. They will learn, if they take up engineering
(Engineering?  Yeah, they make lots of money; put me down for engineering.) 
about Faraday, Ohm, Volta , Hertz, Lenz and Maxwell, (MAYBE, about Farnsworth
and Zworykin) but what they learn will not have reality to them beyond the
mathematics necessary to describe certain physical phenomena they never expect
to encounter.  
         
        That may exaggerate -- a little. 
         
        Well and all, they are more educated than I, even so.   But I've been 
doing
this work 25 years, and when in 1983, I walked into an EMC facility at Wang
Labs in Massachusetts, I was able to do and understand the tests they needed
done, never having done them before.    It is amazing how little one need
know, to know more than others.
         
        Maybe the schools need to hand out crystal sets.  Or is it too late to 
awaken
imaginations by then? Are these people going to school simply to make money?   
         
        We are a distinct minority among the engineering  staff where we work.  
We
are a cost center, not a profit center, and often reminded of that.  We're not
romantic, We're not even attractive nerds.  And schools must make money. 
Given that the marketplace doesn't make us look like a good bet,  the
institutions you found may be all the market will bear. 
         
         
         
        Cortland, KA5S
         

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Alan E Hutley <mailto:a...@nutwooduk.co.uk>  
                To: EMC-PSTC <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> 
                Sent: 12/15/2008 10:19:16 AM 
                Subject: EMC Eduction and Training

                
                Hello All
                 
                I recently posted a request for information on Universities 
that offer EMC
Educational activities. I thank those that responded but was very surprised by
the very small number of Universities involved. I would like therefore to
widen the debate.
                 
                EMC Education and Training
                Behind EMC lays the Technology and Science of Electromagnetism, 
Signal
Integrity and RF Engineering... EMC is a by-product of these disciplines. Over
the past dozen or so years EMC has been largely, if not entirely, driven by
Directives and Regulations. Around this scenario has evolved a specialised
product industry together with consultants and soothsayers.
                Without the furore of this activity, EMC would almost certainly 
not have
been on the RADAR to the extent that it has been. Could this be the reason why
formal qualifications and academic training has not evolved at the same pace
or magnitude?
                 Is the apparent lack of resources committed to Training and 
Education due
to the relevant organisations and Governments lack of understanding with
respect to the complexity surrounding EMC... or are there other reasons.
                Invariably, or at least in many cases, Engineers seem to have 
ended up
becoming EMC Engineers by default, not design. Does anyone actually set out
with the sole purpose of becoming an EMC Engineer?  Did you?
                I am interested in the views of others and finding out what 
resources are
currently available, plus I would like to hear from Trainers, Educators,
Course Presenters, EMC Engineers, Consultants and anyone else that can
contribute to the debate by expressing their opinions.
                Thank you.
                 
                Alan E Hutley
                The EMC Journal
                www.theemcjournal.com

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