It was me, I thought I was replying to all. John McAuley
DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorised. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 24 August 2009 16:33 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Ring Of Fire? Cell Phone Turns On Oven - Popcorn II? In message <9d04b979323dcd428297dda95108893e0287f...@bb-corp-ex2.corp.cubic.cub>, dated Mon, 24 Aug 2009, "Price, Edward" <ed.pr...@cubic.com> writes: >OTOH, I would expect to see 5 to 10 V/M at two meters distance from a >cell phone, so at a half-meter or less, I would be surprised to NOT see >some interaction. > >And then, on yet another hand, proximity of cell phones should be >expected for household systems. It was pointed out to me in a private email (why not to the list I don't know) that the relevant IEC/EN safety standard IEC 60335-1, applying to all household appliances, imposes in clause 19.11.4 'EMC for functional safety' requirements beyond those of CISPR 14-2, including an RF immunity test at 10 V/m (but you need to refer to yet another standard, IEC/EN 61000-4-3, to find the actual figure!). -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Things can always get better. But that's not the only option. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@socal.rr.com> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@socal.rr.com> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>