Hello,
Not quite Scott, I think what Thomas and Charlie were (correctly) saying, was.. With harmonized and published standard, we do not need to use accredited laboratory for the test. ...in fact, regardless of whether you use a harmonised standard or not, the lab does not need to be accredited. If a laboratory is not accredited, how does a client know if the laboratory is capable of doing the required tests. ..that's a very good question and it explains why so many accredited labs (with their extra overheads) are still in business. You somehow need to trust your lab. There's no certification for the R&TTE or EMC Directives, so all the responsibility is on the person signing the DoC. Good idea to find a good lab! That's why people use an accredited lab or one that they really trust. The capability includes equipment and its calibration, knowledge of standard interpretation and skill set of actual testing. .Yes. You could look at the capability of the lab, how they calibrate their equipment, chat to them about the standards and the staff, visit their lab, etc. Michael Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 February 2012 12:02 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] R&TTE compliance test reports Hi Thomas, Thanks for your advice. With harmonized and published standard, we do not need to use accredited laboratory for the test. If a laboratory is not accredited, how does a client know if the laboratory is capable of doing the required tests. The capability includes equipment and its calibration, knowledge of standard interpretation and skill set of actual testing. Regards, Scott On 29/2/12 6:45 AM, "Thomas Cokenias" <t...@tncokenias.org> wrote: Hi Scott, Not sure if this answers your question, but you MUST use a Notified Body if you test to a standard that has not been harmonized as evidenced by being published in the Official Journal of the EU. If you do test to a standard that is indeed harmonized and published in the OJ, then you are not required to get a NB expert opinion, and as others have posted, you do not need to use an accredited test lab for your tests either, as long as you use test methods called out by the standards and your equipment and procedures can meet the measurement uncertainty limits published therein. This means you can do tests at your location if you already have the equipment. best regards Tom Cokenias T.N. Cokenias Consulting P.O. Box 1086 El Granada CA 94018 On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Scott Xe wrote: R&TTE compliance test reports I notice that some compliance reports of R&TTE are reviewed by a notified body while some are issued by an accredited laboratory only. Can someone advise if they have different purposes or requirements. Thanks and regards, Scott - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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