Hi Scott What Michael said, yes.
best regards Tom On Feb 29, 2012, at 4:26 AM, Michael Derby wrote: > Hello, > > Not quite Scott, I think what Thomas and Charlie were (correctly) saying, > was…… > > With harmonized and published standard, we do not need to use accredited > laboratory for the test. > …..in fact, regardless of whether you use a harmonised standard or not, the > lab does not need to be accredited. > > If a laboratory is not accredited, how does a client know if the laboratory > is capable of doing the required tests. > ….that’s a very good question and it explains why so many accredited labs > (with their extra overheads) are still in business. You somehow need to > trust your lab. There’s no certification for the R&TTE or EMC Directives, > so all the responsibility is on the person signing the DoC. Good idea to > find a good lab! That’s why people use an accredited lab or one that they > really trust. > > The capability includes equipment and its calibration, knowledge of standard > interpretation and skill set of actual testing. > …Yes. You could look at the capability of the lab, how they calibrate their > equipment, chat to them about the standards and the staff, visit their lab, > etc. > > > Michael > > Michael Derby > Regulatory Engineer > ACB Europe > > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: 29 February 2012 12:02 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] R&TTE compliance test reports > > Hi Thomas, > > Thanks for your advice. With harmonized and published standard, we do not > need to use accredited laboratory for the test. If a laboratory is not > accredited, how does a client know if the laboratory is capable of doing the > required tests. The capability includes equipment and its calibration, > knowledge of standard interpretation and skill set of actual testing. > > Regards, > > Scott > > > On 29/2/12 6:45 AM, "Thomas Cokenias" <t...@tncokenias.org> wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > Not sure if this answers your question, but you MUST use a Notified Body if > you test to a standard that has not been harmonized as evidenced by being > published in the Official Journal of the EU. > > If you do test to a standard that is indeed harmonized and published in the > OJ, then you are not required to get a NB expert opinion, and as others have > posted, you do not need to use an accredited test lab for your tests either, > as long as you use test methods called out by the standards and your > equipment and procedures can meet the measurement uncertainty limits > published therein. This means you can do tests at your location if you > already have the equipment. > > best regards > > Tom Cokenias > T.N. Cokenias Consulting > P.O. Box 1086 > El Granada CA 94018 > > > On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Scott Xe wrote: > > R&TTE compliance test reports > I notice that some compliance reports of R&TTE are reviewed by a notified > body while some are issued by an accredited laboratory only. Can someone > advise if they have different purposes or requirements. > > Thanks and regards, > > Scott > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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