Hi Brian,
I find the claim of those senior design engineers suspect, which in my opinion appears to be self-serving. And, referring to "compliance people" in that way reminds me that the rift between design and compliance still exists, even over many years. But if, in fact, those compliance people were not requiring those things, they would certainly not be effective and would not be taking their responsibility seriously or seriously enough. As a curiosity, what is the validity of what those design engineers are claiming? Or, is it just so much rhetoric? So, I recommend that you hold fast against the hordes. In my opinion, I suggest you tell them either FUGETABOUTIT or KWITCHEBELIAKIN. Maybe John could impart some British witticisms here. Please note that my employer expects me to do my job effectively and my responsibilities at least include those processes you've outlined below. Please also find my comments below. IHTH. Best regards, Ron -----Original Message----- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:00 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] receiving/approval processes under fire The siege is underway. The senior design engineers claim that, after conference with colleagues in other companies, many of my conformity requirements have never been required by their compliance people. Some of the receiving/approval processes that are in dispute: - CoC from plastic component supplier that is not recognized molder. I require [1]all major plastic parts be made only from recognized molders and [2]CofCs for all plastics to ensure plastic material traceability all of the time. - processed wire tags from re-spoolers. I, too, require this. - document audits from suppliers having no agency recognition. I, too, require this. - labeling requirements for re-packaged chemicals. We only use chemicals for manufacturing processing and those are outside of my control. - EMC re-test for some changes of PCB layout. I, too, require this for "some" changes, but only where a due diligent EMC analysis indicates retesting is necessary. - update of CB report when values on some safety-critical components changed. The CB cert/report is invaluable for multi-country safety approvals. But, it's not clear what those values are and if those values are not critical, then I would recommend having them removed. The last one I slammed and immediately won the argument. Others may be more difficult. Yes, I know that UL and others publish papers on traceability requirements. So none of you regulatory people do this?? Peshaw! (sp) Balderdash also works here. Brian - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net<mailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net>> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org<mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org<mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com<mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
