Derek:
Even more than just 461; the DoD provides a huge electronic library of Standards, Handbooks, even many obsolete documents, and it’s all free for the download. You not only get the document for free, you can put it in as many computers as you like, and there’s no restrictions on how many people can access it or if you want to abstract a section. And you can do electronic searches within the document and can copy figures. Those of us who have straddled the military and commercial worlds can’t help but get an attitude when we see the cost of a commercial document, and, because it is so costly, the restrictive protections that go along with it. The DoD’s rationale is that the US taxpayer has already paid for development of the document, so they should get free access. Interesting that they extend that courtesy to everyone else in the World too. As for who gets the money in the commercial World, I don’t see many bucks or perks going to the people who spend their own resources to actually create these standards. Since the production and distribution costs can’t be very much, that leaves the biggest percentage to where? Ed Price El Cajon, CA USA From: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:41 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] e-standard.org "The cheapest standards in the world" I'd counter with the price of one of the best EMC standards, mil std 461.. I like the price of that even better Copying .pdfs does not cost in excess of a few dollars. Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 12:08 PM, "McInturff, Gary" <gary.mcintu...@esterline.com> wrote: Reasonable is a subjective word. If I’m comparing standard prices from one source or the other the legitimate site is reasonable compared to other legitimate sites, but when I compare them to other printed matter including my daughter medical texts, math texts, or worse e-books the costs are huge. I can even get an actor to read me the book and still magnitudes of order difference. So I always suffer sticker shock when I hunting for standards. As I understand the price supports the standards activities – which is the reason I buy from legitimate sources. Gary From: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:38 AM To: McInturff, Gary Cc: don.g...@alcatel-lucent.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] e-standard.org "The cheapest standards in the world" Always one to buck the trend, I think these are reasonable prices We are ripped off by standards bodies left right and centre MHO Derek - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>