The MD requires the DoC (not DoI) or a document calling out the content of the DoC to be provided in the Instruction Manual. The purpose of this requirement is not clear to me but it says it so you have to do it.
I would request additional information from the customer if you can. What exactly did they not like about the information they received. I've had customers reject a DoC only to find out after jumping through many hoops that they were wrong. The Other Brian Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: John Cotman Sent: 12/2/2013 1:10 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity It is a requirement of the Machinery Directive that a copy of the declaration be supplied with each machine. Whether it should be a DoI or DoC will depend on the circumstances, but either way it should be something that the manufacturer does, so I can’t see why “the customer’s distributor” has to generate the document at all? Lauren is correct – a DoC means that all applicable EHSRs have been met. As they all have, it doesn’t need to list them. A DoI means some have not, so you need to tell the user what is met and what therefore is not. Crucially, the recipient of a DoI has to carry out further work to bring the equipment into full compliance, so they need to know what that work involves. JohnC ________________________________ From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: 02 December 2013 15:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity Perhaps discussion of DoI vs. DoC is getting tangled. A DoI is a concept only available to the MD, and because it is related to a machine that is partly complete, it must include a list of the MD Annex I essential heath and safety requirements that have been applied and fulfilled. The assumption being that some have not been fulfilled because the machine is only partly completed. In my experience, people often misunderstand the fine point details associated with partly completed machinery declarations because they are not necessarily aligned with common sense. Download the MD guide and give it a read. http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/mechanical/files/machinery/guide-appl-2006-42-ec-2nd-201006_en.pdf Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor ________________________________ From: "Mark Schmidt" <mark.schm...@dornerworks.com<mailto:mark.schm...@dornerworks.com>> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:14:23 PM Subject: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity Hello List, I need some help. I am very new to the Machinery Directive and my customer received a non-conformance from their customer about their DoC. It appears that my customer’s distributor generated a DoI, and it appears that it needs to be a DoC and most importantly their complaint is that it should include a list of which EHSRs are met or not met. Where or how do I determine if these are met or not. Is there a good place to reference? Any help is appreciated like I said I am a newbie when it comes to the Machinery Directive. 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