Good point. When providing regulatory requirements and writing my initial test plans it is, nonetheless a starting point. It can also assist in providing an engineering rationale for the TCF where a directive or a specific standard is NOT used a basis for presumption of conformity. For example - looked at another's similarly scoped product that was declared to directives X and Y using standards A B and C because it was intended to be used in conditions 1 2 3 and 4, but my little box was only used per conditions 1 and 3, so excluded standard C that scoped use under conditions 2 and 4, and stated rationale in the Technical File.
Have never used a 3d party for this, so dunno if these are 'usable' services. As for "osmosis or telepathy", my employer's sales/marketing people believe that these are correct and appropriate methods of information transfer. Brian -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:39 AM To: Brian Oconnell; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Checklist for standards > If you are careful to do a 'deep' search, a sanity check could come from > looking at declarations published by other companies for similar products. It can also lead you down the path of copying someone else's mistake as well though :) 3rd parties can, and do, provide this type advice. Couple of caveats though: - the 3rd party must fully understand the product, and all the applicable directives - the manufacturer has to clearly explain what the product does (and doesn't do), rather than relying on osmosis or telepathy for transfer of relevant information. Regards Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 13 October 2014 19:31 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Checklist for standards Have wished for such a checklist myself. Most conformity assessment bodies will provide such a service. Ultimately, informal guidance from agencies that issue the test certs, time using the Emperor's Search Engine, and engineering judgment from people that have been there is what are used by most compliance people. Your first stop would be the list of marking directives (note that there are some New Approach directives that do not require the CE mark), followed by a visit to the list of harmonized standards for that directive. Your next question would be are there are essential requirements that are scoped in a non-marking directive for your particular product. If you are careful to do a 'deep' search, a sanity check could come from looking at declarations published by other companies for similar products. An NB guy once said that " the manufacturer shall decide which directives are applicable". Brian -----Original Message----- From: Rick Busche [mailto:rick.bus...@qnergy.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:07 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Checklist for standards As I pour through the various standards applicable to my product and build the TCF leading to CE Marking, it seems to me that somewhere there should be a checklist of the respective standards to simplify this effort. I have heard that the IEEE may even have a paid service. The idea of typing my way through the applicable elements for the standards is arduously slow. Any suggestions appreciated. Rick - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
