For the design engineer who wants to learn more about safety regarding both product design (systems using 85-264VAC sources; mostly digital logic but including an Ethernet physical layer interface) and production test, but is on a very tight budget, are there recommended references? Soft and/or hardcopy are fine. I have searched the archives using a variety of terms to locate recommended references but didn't locate any lists.
I've read the discussions about lowest cost sources for standards. IEC 60950-1:2013 is 707 Euros from what I see on the Estonian site. The UL version is $493 for starters. Purchasing any number of standards certainly is a moderate to significant investment for the individual. I checked out the HBSE per Rich's post about how it came to be, but don't have $1050 for the two day workshop at this time either. There look to be a handful of texts on Amazon. Electrical Safety Handbook, 4th edition looks like the most appropriate title -- any benefit with something from Amazon or other publishing house/distributor compared to the actual standards? If I've missed pertinent discussions in the archives or if you would consider sharing a recommended reading/standards list, I would appreciate any guidance/feedback. Kind regards, Adam Dixon adam.di...@ieee.org On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Richard Nute <ri...@ieee.org> wrote: > Many years ago, a group of R&D engineers came to > me and said: "We want to learn about product > safety, but we don't want to read the standards." > The result was the HBSE course. > > If the product safety engineer does his job, there > will be no test failures. > > > Best regards, > Rich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nyffenegger, Dave > > [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:41 PM > > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > > Subject: Re: [PSES] Estonian Standards MultiUser > > License > > > > Same message I've been communicating here > internally > > as well. Management certainly supports and > expects to > > have it right the first time but educating on > what needs to > > happen and by who to accomplish that seems to be > a > > recurring theme. > > > > -Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Woodgate > > [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:48 PM > > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > > Subject: Re: [PSES] Estonian Standards MultiUser > > License > > > > In message > > <BLUPR0701MB8208F224B64620D128B43E9E31E0@ > > BLUPR0701MB820.namprd07.prod.out > > look.com>, dated Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Brian Ceresney > > <bceres...@delta-q.com> > > writes: > > > > > As a matter of fact, it is very difficult to > get our > > engineers to > > >take an interest in reading and understanding > the > > standards at all, > > > > That is BAD. I forestalled it with my group by > > explaining that while the safety and EMC experts > did the > > tests, THEY were responsible for THEIR designs > > conforming. They were, of course, free to ask > advice and > > assistance from the experts, but when the > designs came to > > be tested, I said that I did not expected them > to fail. > > > > Senior managers found this arrangement seriously > > intellectually challenging. Of course, what it > does is > > eliminate almost all friction between the > designers and > > the 'testers' - they are all in the same boat, > which is as it > > should be. > > -- > > OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See > > www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I turn my back on the > > sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J > M > > Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK > > > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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