Let me figuratively add fuel to the fire. There is a Kickstarter campaign for a new DIY USB cover plate<https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/snappower/snappower-charger-a-usb-charger-in-a-coverplate-no?ref=nav_search>. The FAQ near the bottom of the page promises that the product will be UL Listed before it ships. The company has a similar product that provides lighting on the cover plate<http://www.snappower.com/snaprays-guidelight/> which is UL Listed<http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/showpage.html?name=QBSA.E357628&ccnshorttitle=Illuminated+Cover+Plates+for+Flush-mounted+Wiring+Devices&objid=1083127845&cfgid=1073741824&version=versionless&parent_id=1079291868&sequence=1>.
This appears to simplify the installation process for the do it yourself installer. However, the design is particular to one of the more common types of outlets used in North America. I don't see an easy way to adapt this design to the various types of outlets used outside of North America. The small size of the electronics housing might not be large enough if the creepage and clearance distances need to be increased for 240 VAC input. This email message and attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information. Any unauthorized use is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and attachments. -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:17 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets Dave You can, but the (electric wood) saw requires an NB opinion under the Machinery Directive and the weighing instrument may require one under the Measuring Instruments directive - neither require one for the LVD. Regards Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: 16 March 2015 16:36 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets But there are some products that require a certification? from an NB like saws and weighing instruments in addition to the manufacturer claiming compliance. -Dave -----Original Message----- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets In message <9d43ffa0de684727ac4a5d218504c...@sehste15d1be4.hs20.net<mailto:9d43ffa0de684727ac4a5d218504c...@sehste15d1be4.hs20.net>>, dated Mon, 16 Mar 2015, Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com<mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com>> writes: >I don't think they can - Notified Bodies don't appear work like that >under the LVD > >Annex IV is the only route to compliance and that is solely the >responsibility of the manufacturer - Notified Bodies are only involved >in the event of a challenge or prohibition under Articles 8 or 9. There is nothing that *prohibits* a manufacturer consulting a notified body. But the NB can only advise; the claim of compliance must come from the manufacturer alone. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk<http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk> When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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