Hi Scott,
Annex IV of 2014/53/EC is similar to Annex V of 1999/5/EC. It’s an alternative compliance route, not necessarily a test report issue. Michael. From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 August 2015 14:59 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU & LV Directive 2014/35/EU Hi Charlie, Thanks a million to your detail analysis! As regards to 3. quality system in Annex IV of 2014/53/EU, is it referred to ISO 9001 quality system management? I did not find any reference in current compliant reports of R&TTED 99/5/EC. Is it a new requirement for RED? Would it cause a higher level of compliance? Scott On 24 Aug, 2015, at 4:31 am, Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com <mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com> > wrote: Scott There are four scenarios for equipment within scope of R&TTE and/or RED, and the various transition periods have been clarified by the European Commission: 1. PRODUCTS WITHIN OLD LVD/EMCD AND CONTINUE TO BE WITHIN NEW LVD/EMCD (EVEN AFTER APPLICABILITY OF RED) -Products placed on market before 20 April 2016: old LVD/EMCD -Products placed on market on or after 20 April 2016: new LVD/EMCD 2. PRODUCTS WITHIN R&TTED AND REMAIN WITHIN THE SCOPE OF RED -Products placed on market before 13 June 2016: R&TTED -Products placed on market between 13 June 2016 and 12 June 2017: R&TTED or RED -Products placed on market after 12 June 2017: RED 3. PRODUCTS WITHIN OLD/NEW LVD/EMCD BUT THEN FALL WITHIN RED (AFTER APPLICABILITY OF RED)-FOR EXAMPLE TELEVISION AND SOUND BROADCASTING RECEIVERS -Products placed on market before 20 April 2016: old LVD/EMCD -Products placed on market between 20 April 2016 and 12 June 2016 : new LVD/EMCD -Products placed on market between 13 June 2016 and 12 June 2017: RED or new LVD/EMCD -Products placed on market after 12 June 2017: RED 4. PRODUCTS WITHIN R&TTED AND THEN OUTSIDE RED-FOR EXAMPLE TERMINAL EQUIPMENT -Products placed on market before 13 June 2016: R&TTED -Products placed on market after 12 June 2016: RED is not applicable; new LVD/EMCD, if applicable to the product in question The last scenario is the “nasty” one – there is a transition period written into RED, but not into EMC or LVD, so equipment that is currently R&TTE, but not RED has to, in theory, comply with EMC/LVD “overnight” Regards Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 August 2015 00:41 To: Charlie Blackham Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU & LV Directive 2014/35/EU Hi Charlie, Thanks for sharing the temporary solution. For the products that compliant with current directives, are they just updated the DoC to comply with the new ones? What about the RED replacing R&TTE? This one cannot be simply updated the DoC since all the receivers will fall into RED but not current R&TTE. The receivers have to be re-tested to the new directive. The new directive does not publish the homogenised standards yet for the 3rd party laboratories to follow. Thus they cannot test to the new directive as of today. Regards, Scott > On 22 Aug, 2015, at 1:12 am, Charlie Blackham < > <mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com> char...@sulisconsultants.com> wrote: > > Scott > > Test labs should test to standards. > Manufacturers declare to compliance to Directives. > The two beams should not cross :) > > You won't get anything officially, but unofficially the EU MSAs and > enforcement agencies should take a pragmatic stance regarding DoCs and not be > too concerned whether existing or new Directives are being referenced for > several months after the 20 April. * > > (* This was stated verbally by a representative of the UK Department for > Business Innovation and Skills at UK seminar earlier this year) > > Regards > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Xe [ <mailto:scott...@gmail.com> mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: 21 August 2015 16:53 > To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU & LV Directive 2014/35/EU > > Hi All, > > The captioned directives will be enforced on 20 April 2016 with no transition > period. As of today, no accredited laboratories accept the compliance > verification to those directive until 20 April 2016. They claim they cannot > test to those directives until 20 April 2016 as per the directive. It is > impossible in the industry to prepare for any compliant products to be put on > the market on 20 April 2016. Since there is no any technical changes, can we > just update the DoC using the compliant report of old directives. Or any > other idea/original idea of these new directives to allow the compliant > product putting on the market in good order. > > Thanks and regards, > > Scott > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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