The RED is different to the other changing directives in that its scope and technical content are also changed from R&TTE.
The 2014 versions of LVD and EMC state that HS lists for previous directives may be used and will provide a presumption of conformity - reference/citation on page 12 of : Guidance document on the Low Voltage Directive transition from 2006/95/EC to 2014/35/EU<http://ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/13141/attachments/1/translations/en/renditions/native> For the RED, only HS listed for RED provide a presumption of conformity, and if the applicable article 3.2 one is not listed when you want to apply it then you will have to wait or use an NB. That might be "not acceptable" to some people, but currently that is the situation and one that may not change. There is only one NB currently listed for the RED, but this is viewed as a mistake as the commission should have listed all (those that are accredited) at the same time. In any case, no RED NB opinions can be issued until 13th June. Since the RED guidance is not yet available as a draft, I would advise sticking with R&TTE (or LVD/EMC) for a while longer. Regards Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Carpentier Kristiaan [mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com] Sent: 29 April 2016 21:07 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Latest OJEU Hi Monrad, Not sure if my message was clear and this web-site is indeed misleading: Listed HS can only be used for the R&TTE, these are not listed for the RED. Actually many standards are not ready to address all essential requirements (spectrum) of the RED. 2 possibilities: - Either continue to use the R&TTE during the transition period. Or - Use the RED. For the essential requirements of the "spectrum", either use a harmonized standard - but actually none are published - or go to a NB that has been appointed under the RED (at the moment only 1 where I learned it should not have been published before June 13, 2016). If you look into the scheduled publication as HS in the OJ, then at least 1 radio standard easily passes the June 2017 transition period as well. Best regards Kris Carpentier, -----Original Message----- From: Monrad Monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com] Sent: vrijdag 29 april 2016 20:43 To: Carpentier Kristiaan <kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com<mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com>> Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: [PSES] Latest OJEU Hi Kris, I understand your point, but please look at the European Union web page I pointed everyone to for the Radio Equipment Directive 2014/53/EU. This page is for "Radio Equipment" (see the title), it provides the link to the RED itself, and it provides the latest listing of harmonized standards. Yes, these harmonized standards are applicable to the R&TTE as well. And yes, I am confident that the harmonized standards will be significantly revised (many TTE only related standards removed) once the R&TTE Directive 1999/5/EC expires. But this page provides the latest from Europe for Radio Equipment and the RED. Hope this helps. Monrad Monsen -----Original Message----- From: Carpentier Kristiaan [mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 11:56 AM To: Monrad Monsen; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: [PSES] Latest OJEU Hi Monrad, There are no Harmonised standards listed yet for RED, only for R&TTE. See text: < Summary list of titles and references harmonised standards under Directive 1999/5/EC for R & TTE and the Mutual Recognition of their Conformity >. All Harmonised radio standards for RED are in revision stage for inclusion of receiver parameters. Best regards Kris Carpentier, -----Original Message----- From: Monrad Monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com] Sent: vrijdag 29 april 2016 19:38 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Latest OJEU To make things easy, below are the links to the latest harmonized standards listings in the OJEU. LVD: http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/low-voltage/index_en.htm EMC: http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/electromagnetic-compatibility/index_en.htm RED: http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/rtte/index_en.htm Hope this helps everyone. 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