Hi Charlie, Do the existing NBs for R&TTED need to re-apply for RED? Where to get the list of NBs specific for RED?
Regards, Scott > On 3 May 2016, at 3:08 AM, Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com> > wrote: > > The RED is different to the other changing directives in that its scope and > technical content are also changed from R&TTE. > > The 2014 versions of LVD and EMC state that HS lists for previous directives > may be used and will provide a presumption of conformity – reference/citation > on page 12 of : Guidance document on the Low Voltage Directive transition > from 2006/95/EC to 2014/35/EU > <http://ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/13141/attachments/1/translations/en/renditions/native> > > For the RED, only HS listed for RED provide a presumption of conformity, and > if the applicable article 3.2 one is not listed when you want to apply it > then you will have to wait or use an NB. That might be “not acceptable” to > some people, but currently that is the situation and one that may not change. > > There is only one NB currently listed for the RED, but this is viewed as a > mistake as the commission should have listed all (those that are accredited) > at the same time. In any case, no RED NB opinions can be issued until 13th > June. > > Since the RED guidance is not yet available as a draft, I would advise > sticking with R&TTE (or LVD/EMC) for a while longer. > > Regards > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carpentier Kristiaan [mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com] > Sent: 29 April 2016 21:07 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] Latest OJEU > > Hi Monrad, > > Not sure if my message was clear and this web-site is indeed misleading: > Listed HS can only be used for the R&TTE, these are not listed for the RED. > > Actually many standards are not ready to address all essential requirements > (spectrum) of the RED. > 2 possibilities: > - Either continue to use the R&TTE during the transition period. > Or > - Use the RED. For the essential requirements of the "spectrum", either use a > harmonized standard - but actually none are published - or go to a NB that > has been appointed under the RED (at the moment only 1 where I learned it > should not have been published before June 13, 2016). > > If you look into the scheduled publication as HS in the OJ, then at least 1 > radio standard easily passes the June 2017 transition period as well. > > Best regards > Kris Carpentier, > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Monrad Monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com > <mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com>] > Sent: vrijdag 29 april 2016 20:43 > To: Carpentier Kristiaan <kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com > <mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com>> > Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: RE: [PSES] Latest OJEU > > Hi Kris, > I understand your point, but please look at the European Union web page I > pointed everyone to for the Radio Equipment Directive 2014/53/EU. This page > is for "Radio Equipment" (see the title), it provides the link to the RED > itself, and it provides the latest listing of harmonized standards. Yes, > these harmonized standards are applicable to the R&TTE as well. And yes, I > am confident that the harmonized standards will be significantly revised > (many TTE only related standards removed) once the R&TTE Directive 1999/5/EC > expires. But this page provides the latest from Europe for Radio Equipment > and the RED. > > Hope this helps. > Monrad Monsen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carpentier Kristiaan [mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com > <mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com>] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 11:56 AM > To: Monrad Monsen; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: RE: [PSES] Latest OJEU > > Hi Monrad, > > There are no Harmonised standards listed yet for RED, only for R&TTE. > See text: < Summary list of titles and references harmonised standards under > Directive 1999/5/EC for R & TTE and the Mutual Recognition of their > Conformity >. > > All Harmonised radio standards for RED are in revision stage for inclusion of > receiver parameters. > > Best regards > Kris Carpentier, > > -----Original Message----- > From: Monrad Monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com > <mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com>] > Sent: vrijdag 29 april 2016 19:38 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] Latest OJEU > > To make things easy, below are the links to the latest harmonized standards > listings in the OJEU. > > LVD: > http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/low-voltage/index_en.htm > > <http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/low-voltage/index_en.htm> > > EMC: > http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/electromagnetic-compatibility/index_en.htm > > <http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/electromagnetic-compatibility/index_en.htm> > > RED: > http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/rtte/index_en.htm > > <http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/rtte/index_en.htm> > > Hope this helps everyone. > > Monrad Monsen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com <mailto:scott...@gmail.com>] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:29 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] Latest OJEU > > For both new LVD & EMCD, follow the latest list of old LVD & EMCD as per EU > guidance. However RED should have a new list to be issued within the > transitional period or any new guidance in near future. The accredited > laboratories may encounter challenge to do RED test in coming one year. > > Regards, > > Scott > > > On 11 Apr 2016, at 6:41 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen > > <g.grem...@cetest.nl <mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl>> wrote: > > > > These have not been published yet, but it is to be expected that the > > same lists will apply, though probably an updated list will be > > published under 2014/30/EC. > > Same for LVD. > > Same for RED. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ing. 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