I guess you would get a similar answer from Volkswagen these days. :-)
Michael. -----Original Message----- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 03 August 2016 18:10 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by ....SOFTWARE Dear Hardware People on the third rock from Sol, Software beings (self included) are idiotically clever and tend to be rather subversive. We can devise profoundly evil schemes that can 'go around' fault conditions in electrical components that forces our equipment to pump out giggle watts of power while the surrounding creation melts down. Pro-tips for future compliance engineers: 0. Never trust any software types; not even a single one among us. If your significant other is a software engineer, learn to sleep with eyes open. 1. learn how to read code like a book (which means you will need to understand the language's basic syntax and structural characteristics). 2. learn how to run code in an emulator that can run under fully static clock conditions. 3. learn how to determine code coverage. 4. carry a large hammer to meetings with the s/w dev team. Brian From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:41 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by ....SOFTWARE I have virtually no experience in software safety. I'm a hardware guy. I suggest simulating failures in the sensors (hardware) that gives the software info about what state the battery is in. And, simulating failures of the hardware controlling the charging, discharging, and overcharging the battery. In this way, you have accounted for the worst-case failures of both the hardware and the software. Rich From: Bolintineanu, Constantin [mailto:cbolintine...@tycoint.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 7:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by ....SOFTWARE Dear Colleagues, I would like to kindly ask those who have an extensive experience regarding the above subject, to share their opinion about the following aspect: Having a circuit which is charging a battery, and having it controlled and protected by SOFTWARE ONLY from the point of view of CHARGING , DISCHARGING, OVERCHARGING, 1. How do you think that SINGLE FAULT CONDITIONS shall be applied? (without SOFTWARE working at all? Or by providing a fault on the component where the SOFTWARE is stored? OR BOTH 2. Which conditions do you think that shall be imposed to the software and/or to the memory in which it is stored? Any other suggestions/observations/comments are more than welcome. Sincerely, Constantin Bolintineanu P.Eng. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
