It doesn't matter whether it is borax (sodium tetraborate) or boric ('boracic')
acid; it's the borate ion that is toxic.
Bifenthrin has been banned in Europe since mid-2011. It is a pyrethroid and is
probably toxic to bees.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:58 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Fire ants
I believe it is Boric acid you want; not Borax, which is a salt of Boric Acid.
I learned years ago that there are two types of ants; some like sweet, some
like fat. So I made two different mixtures. One with boric acid and powdered
sugar and the other with boric acid and bacon grease. I put the mixtures on
coffee can lids and set them outside near my back patio (where I was having ant
trouble). Sure enough, I found different types of ants preferred sweet (like
carpenter ants) and others preferred the fat (like little piss ants). Within a
few days I noticed a reduction in the number of ants but it never seemed to
completely eradicate them.
But then a couple years ago I found out about a relatively safe insecticide
used by a company called "Mosquito Squad" called Bifen IT. Also known as
Bifenthrin. With all the viruses going around that can be transmitted by
Mosquitos, I purchased some Bifen, mixed it with water per the instructions and
sprayed it around my house, lawn and bushes. It works pretty good to reduce
the number of mosquitos but one unexpected bonus is no more Ants!! I mean, not
a one. It also kills ticks which carry Lime Disease in our area. This is the
best insecticide I have used. It has a low toxicity to earthworms, birds and
mammals, but don't use it near fish ponds (can kill fish).
Now, back to our regularly scheduled program.
The Other Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Perkins [mailto:00000061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:17 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Fire ants
Ant bait: our local garden guy recommends a home brew mixture of equal parts
powdered sugar, powdered dry yeast and Borax - ask at your drug store (not
Boraxo the hand cleaner). Scatter it where you see the ants and they carry it
back to the nest to feed the young; evidently the ants can't separate the good
from the bad. We like it because it can be applied directly to any surface, is
not a messy application and is easily cleaned up when the ants are gone.
We've used it several times and it seems to work really well.
:>) br, Pete
Peter E Perkins, PE
Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 23427 Tigard,
ORe 97281-3427
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:19 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Fire ants
Liquid Ant Bait. Ants consume the liquid and return to the nest where they pass
on the bait to the rest of the colony.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sundstrom, Mike [mailto:mike.sundst...@garmin.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:00 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Fire ants
What is Terro?
Thanks,
Michael Sundstrom
Garmin Compliance Engineer
2-2606
(913) 440-1540
KB5UKT
"We call it theory when we know much about something but nothing works,
and practice when everything works but nobody knows why." -- Albert
Einstein
-----Original Message-----
From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:40 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Fire ants
Two to three years to evolve a resistant strain. Then what? Plutonium?
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M
Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England
Sylvae in aeternum manent.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 1:44 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Fire ants
Just keep some Terro inside the electrical boxes. Can't imagine the wildlife
peoples having an issue with that, not they would ever know.
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