No need to limit yourself to 60950 either. Specifically for battery operated equipment, you can use a standard like 60335 that has requirements for battery operated appliances. From the Annex use the testing and construction and user instructions from that standard. --Dan RomanIEEE Senior MemberPSES/EMCS/cesdan.ro...@ieee.org
-------- Original message -------- From: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" <g.grem...@cetest.nl> Date: 2/1/17 4:22 AM (GMT-05:00) To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Do it yourself safety reports? I agree with John, batteries are the most critical part. Make sure they are properly approved, and use a fuse in their leads. As it's an RF product, I suppose the LVD comes into play by means of the RTTE (RED) directive. So a full qualification is needed. Many aspects do not apply, but the remaining applicable chapters need evaluation. That requires evaluation of the battery, and possibly fire and heat hazards if the power exceeds "limited power levels". (antenna voltage > 50 ?) Documentation, marking and labelling and a proper definition (intended use) is needed. Installation and safety documentation might be needed. If the battery is chargeable and a power supply is included it needs verification of its documentation and needs reinforced insulation, both mechanically and electrically, as the secondary "live parts" are rarely earthed in these type of equipment's and often must be be classified as accessible parts. Plastics need may not propagate fire, and should have the right V Class. More aspects can be applicable..... making your own test report is possible, but I doubt if it will stand up against examination, unless you have done this before... Regards, Ing. 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If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your co-operation. From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday 1 February 2017 09:28 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Do it yourself safety reports? If it's battery-powered, the LVD may not apply, so in turn there is no need to apply 60950. But I would advise applying it as far as possible. We don't want more battery fires, so that is one point to look at carefully; can the battery be short-circuited by a fault and if so, what happens? It's certainly possible to do that without a test house, but of course, it has to be done carefully. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Curtis McNamara [mailto:mcnam...@umn.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:29 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Do it yourself safety reports? A client is asking if it is practical to do their own 60950 safety reports for CE. The device is battery powered, low power RF (they would have complete EMC testing done at a lab). Thanks in advance for your suggestions. Thanks for all the great past advice! Curt - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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