Brian, et al, Lots of good discussion already. Purportedly, the standards contain the needed technical requirements to demonstrate that the construction is adequate. The printable material must be controlled in the usual way to ensure an adequate basis for the needed final properties - mechanical, electrical, etc.
My project experience with printed parts led to lots of discussion with the test house engineer who needed to be convinced that the proto parts would be replaced with molded parts in the next build. Led to some interesting conversation and consternation for the company team but all was worked out in the end. Else I agree with John's initial point, remove '3d printing' and it reads like the list of risks that any manufacturer deals with. :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 p.perk...@ieee.org -----Original Message----- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:57 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 3D Printed Parts "...how the part is made?" -> the manufacturing process and technique? Stuff from the ASTM has a little of this, but are typically materials test methods used to verify the result of the manufacturing process. Otherwise 'manufacturing' standards seem to be for the assembly of equipment. For example, ASTM F2946 does not talk about how to make a pipe seal, but does cover materials selection and assembly requirements for some types of seals for plastic pipe joins. There are common tests like melt-flow index that can be done pre and post injection to verify the chemical changes of thermoplastic polymers resulting from the molding process. These test methods, and the myriad stuff in the UL746 series, could be indicative of the effectiveness of the manufacturing process, whether injection molding or AM. Some of the environmental standards indirectly effect the manufacturing process by eliminating or encouraging a process due to chemical restrictions of resultant by-products. Then there is UL, which seems to have dived into AM during past several years; they have AM manufacturing process and technique audits as part of their FUS. They seem to be running the ASTM F42 committee. Do not know what TC261 has done lately, but both have been active for 5 to 15 years. Travelers' Insurance is not saying anything new, they are just now realizing the size and breadth of the AM market and want a piece of the pie of something that has been growing for about 20 years. Brian From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 1:56 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 3D Printed Parts Hi John A: Still looking for opinions on the question though - do our Standards consider how the part is made? Consider the Y capacitor. It must comply with the requirements in IEC 60384-1. Type and routine tests. Same as for a finished product. Supposedly, routine tests address the consistency of how the part or product is made. Best regards, Rich - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>