Compliance with FCC Rules Part 15 is required for any IT product sold to either 
consumers or professional users.  If your product contains a wireless 
communication function it will require FCC certification as an intentional 
radiator.  If it is not wireless, only verification is required.

Class I is powered by the AC mains, so NRTL is required because the device will 
be used in the workplace.   Class III products should technically be NRTL as 
well as Ted stated below, but it is up to you (business decision) as this would 
likely not be a focus of OSHA enforcement.

Jim Hulbert

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Thank you Ted, Rich and Regan,

The product is classified as IT and is sold to pro market. i.e it is used by 
professional and not consumer market. There two types of products. Class I as 
well as Class III. They are mainly used in corporation conference rooms.

With that in mind, what are your thoughts about mandatory NRTL certification as 
well as FCC?

Thanks
Peter
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From: Ted Eckert 
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Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Mandatory certification
Hello Peter,

Let me add to Rich and Regan’s comments.

The question for residential installations isn’t as clear as for the workplace. 
Most jurisdictions in the United States have adopted the National Electrical 
Code which requires many electrical and electronic products to either be Listed 
or to be investigated and approved by the local Authority Having Jurisdiction. 
In practice, this typically will apply to hard-wired products or products 
attached to building structure. The enforcement is typically through an 
electrical inspection which will often not cover plug-connected devices.

In the workplace, any product that has a direct connection to the mains will 
need NRTL approval. At the other end of the spectrum, a product like a USB 
mouse or remote control using alkaline batteries likely won’t need NRTL 
approval. In theory, I believe an OSHA inspector could enforce the NRTL 
requirement on any electrical product, but that won’t necessarily be what 
happens in practice.

That being said, you can choose not to get NRTL approval for your product. 
However, you need to understand the risks your product may pose. If you sell 
products to commercial customers, are you meeting their needs? Will your 
products be acceptable to them? If you have a low-voltage device that isn’t 
mains connected, you will need to understand your customer’s needs before you 
make any determination about skipping NRTL approval.

Let’s use the USB mouse example. If you sell a USB mouse that has no NRTL 
approval, you can state that you are selling a product to the general public 
for home use where NRTL approval for a mouse is clearly not required. You can 
then argue that any business that purchases it is making their own decision on 
whether to accept a non-NRTL product. However, it is up to you, your employer 
and your employer’s legal department on whether you should take this approach.

Ted Eckert
The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of my employer, OSHA or 
the U.S. Department of Labor.

From: Richard Nute <ri...@ieee.org<mailto:ri...@ieee.org>>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 3:52 PM
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Hi Peter:

I can only speak to NRTL certification.

If your product can be used in a workplace, then NRTL certification is 
mandatory.

In most non-workplace locations, safety certification is mandatory.  A local 
authority specifies the acceptable certification houses.  Most local 
authorities specify the NRTL certification houses.

Certification by a NRTL certification house is accepted almost universally in 
the USA.

Best regards,
Rich


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