Hi, Steve— *if the cabinet doesn’t physically connect to the machine, is it a type of free standing enclosure, for noise reduction or environmental protection? *You mention (ISO) 13849; this implies functional safety is involved, but you also say the cabinet is “non-electrical”. Does that mean it doesn’t physically (conductively) connect but cabinet contains wireless electronics?
What purpose does the cabinet serve, and why would parts of ISO 13849 series apply? (My late afternoon coffee isn’t helping draw the picture :) Best regards, Chet Summers From: Steve Brody <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2025 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PSES] Non-electrical support products Think Before You Click: This email originated outside our organization. I am looking for ay suggestions/recommendations for a cabinet that it used in conjunction with, it not physically or electrically connect to, a product that falls under the EU Machinery Regulation. Questions are: * can/should this cabinet be CE Marked, or should it be considered to be part pf the CE Marked machine? * If yes, then the only assessment that I think should be done is a Risk Assessment, but not sure what standard should be used. * I suggested 13849 but there is pushback as it it non-electrical, even though there are sections of 13849 that would be applicable, as well as those that are N/A * SEMI S10 is an alternative, but it is a guideline and not a standard, and is is not harmonized in the EU I am told that this cabinet is sold as an option to the machine, and therefore the CE Marking issue. Thoughts and comments solicited and appreciated. Steve Brody [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> C - 603 617 9116 ________________________________ This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/<https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/%20> Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html> List rules: https://pses.ieee.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/EM-PSTC-List-Rules.pdf For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Rick Linford at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 ________________________________ This electronic message including any attachments ("Message") may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under trade secret and other applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, notify the sender immediately, permanently delete all copies of this Message, and be aware that examination, use, dissemination, duplication or disclosure of this Message is strictly prohibited. This email and any files transmitted with it from Charles Machine Works are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://pses.ieee.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/EM-PSTC-List-Rules.pdf For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: [email protected] Rick Linford at: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> _________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
