Dave
I agree
Dave Engvall wrote:
> It is amazing how many DEC users, etc come crawling out of the woodwork.
> All of them with great stories about how things used to be.
> 
> With all this architectural experience there ought to be some  
> strongly held opinions on a processor chip that would do a
> good job on real-time applications such as emc and still be  
> affordable. I really believe that someplace along the path Intel
> is going to make the Px unusable for real time.  We as a group are  
> going to need to be able to migrate to some other chip-set.
> 
> Yes, I know I've been smoking the wrong stuff ... or maybe the right  
> stuff.
> 
> Ideas??

the processor and the hardware are as old as we are :}

i think the separation of church and state is important...
the RT stuff must be isolated from the user front end
to the point of separate hardware,
just to insure the thought is always enforced

some of the GL problems that eliminate so many motherboards will be gone
when there is no graphics on the rt 'computer'

i think a non-computer is better, pmac fanuc mdsi dont use 'computer 
chips' they use big xilink and cypress devices
or get ti chips foundered for them

i understand thats not hobbyist in general
or maybe it s better to say its a smaller set of hobbyists
but there may be good reason to use vlsi custom,
at least the big guys think so

also the ui and io can be separate
the ui 'AXIS' is a great tool, and it's pretty isolated now

 >most< io doesnt need rt features
 >few< io do ( laser on at start of line, pulse sync with distance 
traveled... ) the so called 'hi-speed' io only offered on TOL control 
systems. and as far as i can see, the code for the hi speed is NOT in 
with the 'plc level' stuff.

yeh, i think the future of the hardware must be considered in any 
project that takes this much time & effort to develop

hell i'm just putting together off the shelf stuff and its taking months

many vendors were not used in my project because they couldnt show me 
that something would be available for 5 years. The customer insist on 
it! and some things that could be available, well they werent available 
here yet ! doh!


> 
> Dave
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