On 11/20/2009 05:27 PM, Jack wrote: > A friend does argon for Aluminum, and a argon/co2 mix for most other. Only > because > argon is a pretty inert gas. But it is significantly more costly than CO2 > or the mix. >> <> ... Jack
I agree with the cost issue, my 80 CuFt argon bottles cost me around $40.00 each to refill the last time I took them in, and they last me between 8, and 12 hrs of use each. I'm currently renting a 25/75-C02/AR mix bottle, which I rarely use, but when it's empty, I will be buying a couple of CO2 bottles, and machining a custom mixer valve, to interface with my argon bottles. That way, I can precisely meter the percentage of mix being used, and, my overhead will be lower, as I won't need to rent/buy different ratio mix bottles. The type of gas used is determined by the type of material, it's thickness, the type of filler wire being used, and the welding process. GTAW (TIG) uses argon only, heliarc uses helium, GMAW (MIG) uses argon, AR/CO2, or CO2. FCAW (flux-cored MIG), and SMAW (Stick) uses no external shielding gas, because the flux creates it's own. You don't use just any old gas available, strong welds are the cornerstone of good welding practices. Your welding wire will state which type of shielding gas is preferred, but the entire welding practice needs to be looked at as a whole. Helium is mainly used for heliarc welding, and gives very good welds that stand proud of the surface, and gives good penetration. It is rarely used these days, mainly because of the exorbitant costs. Argon causes a weld bead to flow out, and can stand slightly proud of the surface, lay flat, or even depressed slightly below the surface, with very good penetration. It is the only shielding gas used for TIG, but is frequently used for MIG. CO2 causes a weld bead to stand proud, giving a good fill, and decent penetration, but suffers from porosity problems. It is rarely used, but works ok on mild steel over 3/8". AR/CO2 mix is a good compromise, as it allows a good buildup of a weld, gives good penetration, and reduces the amount of porosity in the weld. It is the most common shielding gas for MIG on mild steel over 1/4". Flux-cored MIG is the most popular type of welding these days, but TIG is the most versatile. You can pretty much TIG weld any type of metal, including copper, brass, titanium, etc... Even highly reactive metals like magnesium can be TIG'd with proper shielding. TIG is very much similar to oxy-welding, only with a arc, instead of a flame, and it doesn't suffer from warpage any where near as bad as oxy-welding. There are several other welding procedures, and I've probably taken this too far OT, but I consider welding to be a essential part of machining, because I generally machine sub-assemblies, and then weld them into finished parts. -- --------------------------------------------------------- Ne M'oubliez ---Family Motto Hope for the best, plan for the worst ---Personal Motto (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your (")_(") signature to help him gain world domination. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users