On Friday, February 18, 2011 07:41:27 pm Peter C. Wallace did opine: > On Fri, 18 Feb 2011, gene heskett wrote: > > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:19:54 -0500 > > From: gene heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Interesting piece. > > > > On Friday, February 18, 2011 12:12:24 pm Peter C. Wallace did opine: > >> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011, gene heskett wrote: > >>> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:55:47 -0500 > >>> From: gene heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> > >>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >>> > >>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>> > >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] > >>> Interesting piece. > >>> > >>> On Friday, February 18, 2011 11:36:38 am andy pugh did opine: > >>>> On 18 February 2011 18:13, gene heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote: > >>>>> <http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2011021800135OPBZHW> > >>>> > >>>> I find it amazing that a tiny bunch of folk in Cambridge (not the > >>>> Massechusetts one) can corner such a huge proportion of the mobile > >>>> CPU market. > >>>> It is fascinating to think that the whole think was given a huge > >>>> boost by the BBC. > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Computers > >>> > >>> I do not seem to be able to make the connection between the Acorn > >>> people, and the cpu currently named the Intel Atom. Most assuredly > >>> there has to be some shared DNA, but I'd suspect that is largely > >>> serendipitous given the widespread usage of the fabrication > >>> technology itself, and only limited contributions obtained by > >>> Intel's hiring of some Acorn/ARM seasoned personnel over the years. > >>> > >>> I posted this link in the hopes that by the time I get a round tuit > >>> and build my next machine, there may be an Atom-like cpu and > >>> motherboard on the emc radar that will not be subject to the whims > >>> of bean counters because it will already have carved out a solid > >>> small slot of multi-year usage in some other high volume usage. > >>> > >>> Lets face it, we have a unique a set of requirements for real time > >>> control that is not well served by the makers because our nitch > >>> simply isn't big enough to be of serious interests to TPTB looking > >>> at the global market picture. > >>> > >>> I would not be at all surprised to see the board makers cutting > >>> their losses so quickly that the last DM510/5XX board has already > >>> been assembled. > >>> > >>> Those who have a home for 4 or 5 of them really should be looking > >>> for the inevitable fire sales that generally accompany such a > >>> market shift. > >> > >> Thats just silly > >> > >> The low power desktop/netbook/home media appliance market is not > >> directly affected by the cell phone chips. The chips in the Atom MBs > >> are not cell phone chips by any stretch of the imagination. The > >> market for low power X86 chips existed before Atom (Via etc) > >> > >> There is a whole family of Atom based SOCs and Atom support chipsets > >> that are not cell phone related at all. > >> > >> Peter Wallace > > > > You may well be right Peter. But dragging the VIA chips into this > > discussion reminds me of the debacles I experienced with both the VIA > > and CYRIX chips of yore. Very poor quality and most of the mobo's > > died even before the Packard Bell monitors that came with that 2 > > pallets of machines we bought for the news dept. did. > > > > At wdtv for instance, we have built the machines we need inhouse now > > for almost a decade. That has paid huge dividends in both machine > > life and up front costs for us. > > I think some people have used the C7s with EMC.
In trying to appear to give some fairness to VIA and the C7's, I would be the first to admit that they probably were burned as hard as anyone over the 'borrowed' electrolytic capacitor dielectric recipe disaster. But AFAIK, no Cyrix cpu chip could ever be expected to move steppers reliably at any speed. Those were so dawgie they should have come with a frayed leash that you hoped would break so they would stop haunting your service bench. > Apopos cell phones/ARM I bet Intel is kicking themselves for selling off > the StrongARM based stuff to Marvell? If so, they need lessons on how to apply the kick so its does some good. I thought StrongARM had lots of promise back in the day. Marvell had a different vision, but must be using the same marketing firm. :( > Peter Wallace > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel > Studio XE: Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) <http://tinyurl.com/ddg5bz> Mickey Mouse wears a Spiro Agnew watch. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
