On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, gene heskett wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:42:24 -0500 > From: gene heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Scopes > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 09:02:43 AM Mark Wendt did opine: > >> A bit off tangent, but Jon's post in the Encoder thread brought >> something to mind. I recently became the proud papa of a Tektronix >> 7623A O'scope, purchased off the Bay of E. It's a mainframe storage >> scope, capable of handling three plugins - two vertical amps and a >> horizontal timebase. I got that machine, a few different plugins, a >> number of probes, and some other odds and ends for less than $500. It's >> an analog scope, but in it's time, it was one of the high-end scopes >> that Tek made, and it's still going strong even at close to 30 years of >> age. >> >> This one is identical to the one I have: >> >> <www.ebay.com/itm/Tektronix-7623-Oscilloscope-Modules-and-Manuals-/23055 >> 2776690> >> >> You can get better prices by waiting a bit. I got mine for $100 plus >> shipping. >> >> A venerable high quality machine that you can use to help troubleshoot >> problems like the ones that showed up in the Encoder thread. >> >> Mark > > Mark, be aware, very aware that tek has one HUGE Achilles heel. Its input > attenuators are all custom, in house made parts. And they age out of > calibration, both for DC measurements and for waveform fidelity on the > screen, with square waves no longer being shown as square waves, and no > amount of fiddling with the probe comp screws can fix it. This starts to > get noticeable at about the same time tek takes advantage of the statutes > re service parts and discontinues the parts 5 years after production > ceases, or decides if they still have one, that it is worth 20x what it was > worth a year before when it was still subject to the federal parts > availability statutes. Been there, done that, threw it in the ditch when > it was 7 years old in one case, 8 in another, because I could not believe > what it was telling me. > > My now 25 year old Hitachi V-1065 (computerized, dual trace 100 mhz, > triggered & delayed sweep, good to at least 200mhz with some rolloff & loss > of headroom in the vertical amps) is still within a couple percent for any > measurement its simple computer can make including frequencies by > reciprocal of time. And the tube is as bright and sharp as it was when new > as of last night when I measured the baud rate on a serial data line I > thought was off. And yes, a midi port was running at about 37,000 baud. > The keyboard obviously ignored the data. :( > > I have worn out at least 8 sets of 10x probes in its time. The 200mhz > models I can get from MPJones are as accurate at $40 a copy as anything > else I've ever bought, and mechanically sturdier than Tek's $200/copy > versions. > > Sadly, the Tektronix that earned our trust as the final word back in the > early 60's, and had lifetime warranties on any in-house built parts > including their CRT's & power transformers, has been sold to the stock > market 25+ years back, and is no longer worthy of our trust as a standard > test gear item unless its still in warranty AND they will fix it. Note the > caps, voice of experience. Whether they will honor the warranty is 100% up > to the rep that sold it and there effectively is no warranty on anything > you didn't buy new from him. If you buy it new from Rudy, but move to > Jeffs territory, Rudy won't service it since its out of his area now, and > Jeff won't service it because he didn't sell it. Obviously, its been 15 > years since I have considered the purchase of anything from Tektronix. > > Cheers, Gene > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene> > Executive ability is deciding quickly and getting somebody else to do > the work. > -- John G. Pollard > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Cloud Computing - Latest Buzzword or a Glimpse of the Future? > This paper surveys cloud computing today: What are the benefits? > Why are businesses embracing it? What are its payoffs and pitfalls? > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51425149/ > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >
The 7623 is a 7000 series plug-in type scope >35 years old vertical plugins (and the attenuators, which are socketed) are a dime a dozen... Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your (")_(") signature to help him gain world domination. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cloud Computing - Latest Buzzword or a Glimpse of the Future? This paper surveys cloud computing today: What are the benefits? Why are businesses embracing it? What are its payoffs and pitfalls? http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51425149/ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users