On 03/08/2012 08:24 AM, charles green wrote:
> that was my question.  is such claim true?  it is a bit like speaking english 
> and wondering if any other language is as effective for a particular purpose. 
>  of course the answer is that english is the best language.
>    
It's true if all you want is a machine controller and nothing else.  It 
still works. But most all the rest of us would rather use a much more 
capable computer to run not only the machine, but other software that 
can, and usually is, an integral part of the work.  You're the one that 
wants to limit the computer to a machine control head and nothing else.
> as for oldschool concepts:  how many of us eat food using our hands?  i dont 
> use a food wizard to eat.  my hands turn out to be practical.  if i couldnt 
> eat anymore because my hands were obsolete and only iforks could move food to 
> my mouth, i would die of starvation, or upgrade the hardware.  if there was a 
> third choice..
>    
There's always a third choice.  You're the one imposing limits on the 
computer, nobody else.  We were supplying you with viable options for 
your choice.  Not ours.
>
>    
>> if particular PC is going to be dedicated only to machine
>> control thus
>> it is built in machine case, probably equipped with
>> touchscreen and
>> lots of hardware buttons, MPGs and other stuff, but have no
>> keyboard
>> or mouse
>>      
> keyboard = hardware buttons.  mouse = mpg + more hardware buttons.  touch 
> screen = more hardware buttons + more mpg.  machine case = machine case.
>
> the point is that inside the machine case is adequate processing capacity for 
> moving a knife in three dimensional space, but the software to control the 
> movement is not compatible with most of the existing hardware.  that 
> limitation is mediated by the os choice, and the os choice is directed by 
> external tendencies to preserve entertainment functions.  who cares?
>    
Who said anything about entertainment functions?  You're putting words 
in our mouths by this.  The additional uses we talked about earlier were 
all machine related, from web browsing the documentation, to getting 
help online to through the IRC channel, to additional software that 
generates G Code, to the database that I develop my work pieces in, to 
CAD programs where we design, to CAM software, to printed circuit board 
software, to software that converts images to G Code and the list goes 
on and on.  All work related.  If you want something for entertainment, 
use Windows.  If you want a shop PC capable of running LinuxCNC and also 
able to do other things like I mentioned above, get a PC that runs 
linux, and stop putting limits on yourself.

Mark

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