On Saturday, June 16, 2012 06:44:09 PM Dave did opine:

> >>I suspect real estate was also to be a holdout, hell, nobody around
> >>here
> 
> has a clue what a hectar is, not even me.<<
> 
> I think that Hectars are english also, as well as fathoms, etc.
> 
> You need to get your head wrapped around square meters.   (Good luck
> with that!)  I don't have a meter stick, but I have several yard
> sticks. So how can you estimate realestate in square meters if you
> don't even have a meter stick??
> 
> But I have two feet and my shoes are right at 13 inches.. so if I walk
> toe to toe .....  ;-)  (I do that more than I care to admit.)
> 
And in my prime, my pace even for my short legs, often put me at 91 or 92 
paces from end zone to end zone of a football field.  But not recently, the 
hip joints out voted me.

> Dave
> 
> On 6/16/2012 12:41 PM, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:31:47 PM Peter Blodow did opine:
> >> Dave,
> >> funny thing is that European lathes in those days you were
> >> describing, many still working today,  were equipped with inch lead
> >> screws, so that in order to cut mm threads they have to use a 127
> >> teeth gear in the gear case to drive the lead screw. This way, our
> >> industry wanted to become compatible with the British and American
> >> manufacturers for export.... And although we are using metric units
> >> here in Germany since the late 1880ies, we still buy heating and
> >> water pipes, fittings etc. in inch measures..... When I sometimes
> >> bring my timber to be cut to our local sawmill, I specify 3/4 inch
> >> or one inch boards to be made out of it, although they will be
> >> measured as 20 or 25 mm boards.
> >> By the way, how come that in this mailing list everybody speaks in
> >> inches - you were writing about the metric revolution?
> >> 
> >> Peter
> > 
> > Peter, I was all on that hay ride for as long as it lasted.  But when
> > the gas stations that first put in pumps that measured liters made
> > note that their monthly usage pumped into the customers tanks dropped
> > to 10% because folks would just drive on down the street where they
> > could buy gas by the gallon, a unit they had used all their lives,
> > that effect brought the metric conversion of the US to a screeching
> > halt.  The rest of the system did go metric, but that today is
> > entirely the effect of all the manufacturing having been exported. 
> > Had they put dual displays in the gas pumps for a few years, so folks
> > could see at a glance what they were paying, they might have been
> > able to let the gallons displays gradually fail, but some numbed nuts
> > bean counter apparently wouldn't consider that idea.  Instead, we
> > took very careful aim and shot ourselves in both feet.
> > 
> > I suspect real estate was also to be a holdout, hell, nobody around
> > here has a clue what a hectar is, not even me.
> > 
> >> Dave schrieb:
> >>> I was in engineering college from 76 to 81 and remember some
> >>> discussion about this.   Fortunately there was not too much to
> >>> discuss
> >>> as they had already decided that SI was the way to go and we had
> >>> recently selected "new" books.   At the same time the "metric"
> >>> revolution was in full swing and they were changing out all of their
> >>> machine tools in the school shop so they
> >>> would all be metric.   They were removing manual machines that were
> >>> setup in inches and replacing them with machines setup in
> >>> millimeters. Many of the machines were old so I was happy to see
> >>> them go and be replaced with new machines.
> >>> The school was very unique in that they encouraged students to use
> >>> the machines and the facilities after hours.  They had a shop
> >>> supervisor who was paid to stay late most weekday nights.  Even the
> >>> garage was available, so we could put our cars on the lifts to do
> >>> repairs and modifications.   When I wasn't chasing girls, I "lived"
> >>> at school.
> >>> 
> >>>   :-)
> >>> 
> >>> Dave
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