On 10/09/2012 10:05 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> There is: http://www.roboard.com/ncbox-189.html It took a bit of work 
> to get a kernel that worked well, but that is done now. 
> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=18&id=20692&limit=6
>  


I followed that NCbox-189 thread on the LinuxCNC forum several months 
ago.  Pretty nifty.

Needing to maintain ongoing support for the Vortex86 seemed a bit more 
complicated than needed and the difficulties with the ethernet hardware 
that managed to be one of the few exceptions to "ethernet just works on 
Linux" is unfortunate, but the very small form factor, very low power, 
and the possibility of installing and booting from flash were big 
winners.  The fact that it has a parallel port AND the port on the other 
side with 24 bits of general purpose I/O were huge selling points to 
me.  It'd make a very powerful and small integrated LinuxCNC controller.

I followed the link you provided to the manufacturer's site.  They don't 
sell the NCbox-189, so I followed their links to several of their 
distributors, and they didn't seem to be selling it either. So I'd still 
list availability as a problem, but that's probably a chicken and egg 
problem that would go away if there was a commitment from the 
manufacturer to provide long term hardware availability in exchange for 
a commitment from LinuxCNC developers to provide long term support.  As 
an end user, if it was $200 or less (it should be!) and it was a true 
plug and play low-latency solution that didn't require patching kernels, 
then I'd be a potential customer.



On 10/09/2012 11:01 AM, Eric Keller wrote:
> It still seems to me that the way to go is to have a headless PC doing 
> the real time and another system doing the user interface.

For me, that begs the question: "Is the user interface so burdensome 
that the realtime operating system can't allocate top priority to the 
realtime job and have enough left over for the user interface?" Or, 
stated differently, is there enough benefit to having two processors to 
justify the expense and complexity of such a system if one processor can 
generally get the job done with plenty of computing horsepower in reserve?

YouTube isn't a critical application on my machines.  Sure, it'd be 
convenient, and maybe a little geeky fun, to watch YouTube videos and 
read posts at BuildLog.net, CNC Zone, or the LinuxCNC forums while 
executing G code in realtime, but if it caused any problem, I have 
plenty of other options to surf and watch videos in the shop, including 
my iPod Touch which can easily be with me at any machine.



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