On 2/12/2013 10:47 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 February 2013 22:36:22 Przemek Klosowski did opine:
>
>    
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Dave<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>      
>>> I have a large CNC lathe that has contactors wired in between the
>>> servo drives and the motors and on an Estop, the contactors drop out
>>> and the 3 phase servo motor windings are shorted together to stop the
>>> motors.
>>>        
>> I thought this is a no-no---opening of the circuit causes the servo
>> driver stage to abruptly change from high-current to zero current
>> flow, bound to cause transients in every inductance in the system.
>> THere's a standard warning for the people rewiring their equipment
>> with VFDs to take the reversing drum switch out from next to the
>> motor, and replace it with something that commands the VFD to reverse.
>>
>> Is it one of those things that shouldn't be done routinely but is OK
>> in an emergency?
>>      
> Generally its a big "no" on that.  The VFD probably assumes there is a
> motor out there, and using a switch to interrupt would be a bit hard on it
> because the average switch breaks dirty, going on&  off for 5 to 10
> milliseconds, and re-closing the switch at an unknown position in the VFD's
> output sequence stands a very good chance of letting the magic smoke out of
> it, and we all know things don't work without that magic smoke.  Do ALL
> your starting and stopping via the input controls on the VFD, so that it
> can handle the sequences properly.
>
> This is also true for stepper drives.  The most solidly connected wires in
> the system should be between the motor and the driver.  A flaky connection
> there will blow the tops off the chips in the driver.  Instantly in terms
> of human time.
>
> Cheers, Gene
>    

>>I thought this is a no-no---opening of the circuit causes the servo
>>driver stage to abruptly change from high-current to zero current
>>flow

>>Generally its a big "no" on that.  The VFD probably assumes there is a
>>motor out there, and using a switch to interrupt would be a bit hard on it

That is what I thought also.. however that is the way that lathe is wired.  It 
uses Siemens servo drives for the feeds and the spindle
and the drives are original.

I would not recommend doing that to any random servo drive, but it seems to 
work with these Siemens drives.

Dave





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