On Sunday 27 October 2013 17:13:45 Dave Cole did opine:

> On 10/27/2013 10:43 AM, dave wrote:
> > On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 10:20 -0400, Dave Cole wrote:
> >> On 10/19/2013 7:56 AM, Eric Keller wrote:
> >>> It's the working poor that don't have health care.
> >> 
> >> Exactly..    And the number of working poor in the US is climbing at
> >> a rapid rate..    I know a bunch of them and before they lost their
> >> good paying manufacturing jobs I would have considered them middle
> >> class.. No more..
> >> 
> >> The previous middle class family around the corner now burns wood to
> >> keep the house warm and that is not by choice..  they could not
> >> afford the gas bill.
> >> 
> >> Dave
> > 
> > Interesting. Here wood is 100+ a cord, pellets in the same range a
> > ton, my last delivery of propane was $2.16/gal. Now I need to rerun
> > the calculations to see how the propane balances with electricity at
> > 0.0838/KwH.
> > 
> > Dave
> 
> I'm in Northern Indiana, in a rural area, and the local tree trimmers
> will drop off dump truck loads of tree trunks just for the asking.  The
> emerald ash borer has made for a surplus of available wood.  My neighbor
> must have well over 20 tons of logs in their side yard.   However the
> wood has to be cut, split, and dried and I don't think they have all of
> that figured out.   He is just now cutting and splitting wood that was
> dropped off this summer.
> 
> Dave

A word to you folks who are lucky enough to have a "surplus" of white ash.  
It, to me is not firewood, but some of the most strikingly beautiful 
furniture wood extant.  Its also very strong & machines well in the wood 
shop.  Once dry, it seems dead stable.

My next door neighbors wanted a smaller entertainment center for the front 
room for game playing etc & since I had been hauling white ash back from 
the nephews dairy farm in NYS, I volunteered to make it out of white ash.  
I made the top, bearing the tv's weight, out of native cut 2x6's edge glued 
to get the width, with a finished thickness in the 1.5" range, with a 
dovetailed on cap on the ends to hide the end grain, then made it float 
1/4" above the base cabinet for heat management of the gear on the next 
shelf down.  I think its the best piece of furniture I've made.  I'm told 
it does get the oohs and aahs from visitors.  I've also instructed them 
that anyone wanting a similar one needs to think north of $500 as it took 
quite a while to do.  That isn't what they paid of course, good neighbors 
are good to have.


Cheers, Gene
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