On Tue, 12/10/13, Kirk Wallace <kwall...@wallacecompany.com> wrote:

 My random thoughts.
 
 I have just started using the R8/Tormach toolholding system and find it 
 far more convenient than plain R8. Changes are as fast as grab a wrench, 
 loosen draw bar enough to slide tool holder out, put next holder in, 
 tighten, done. It features repeatable Z offsets, and offsets can also be 
 set off the machine without a special tool holder holder. A  power draw 
 bar really isn't needed unless one has an automatic tool changer. The 
 only down side might be that R8 is not as strong as 30 taper, but the 
 Tormach version is stronger than plain R8.
 
 I would, given a large budget, prefer 30 or 40 taper with a power draw bar.
 
 I believe a Quick Change spindle can be drilled to use normal (CAT, BT, 
 NMTB) taper holders with a draw bar.
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The quick change spindle I got is drilled for a drawbar so the QC nut can be 
removed to use holders that don't have the right flange. It also has screws 
around the sides which are supposed to protrude in enough so the nut can't back 
off too far, which makes it easier to insert and remove holders. Put the wrench 
on, pull about 1/3 turn to the stop, swap tool then flip the wrench around and 
push it back. I'll need to replace those screws if I want that to work. Works 
OK without the stop.

The neat bit of an NMTB taper is any other 30 (or 40 or 5) taper holder will 
work if you have a drawbar with the right thread. Even collets for a Kearney 
and Treker 2D would work, though they don't have notches for the drive lugs.


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