Not following your description, Jon. Do you have a pic of what you did with the 
PC board?
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      From: Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com>
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> 
 Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 3:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting
   
On 11/08/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
>>> I wonder how long it takes to pay back the $75
> difference at 9 watts?
>
> 9 watts x 2000 hrs per year = 18KWHR/yr    @ $0.10 per KWHR that would
> be $1.80 per year so a payback of  $75/$1.8 = $41.6 years
>
>
I made up my own LED retrofits, because I couldn't find 
anything that looked
like it would work well.  I bought Cree 1W LEDs, and put a 
string of 20 of
them on strips of PC board material with little grooves 
cutting the
copper path.  Each LED has 2 square inches of copper as a 
heat sink.
I used commercial LED lighting regulators, which were pretty 
expensive.
I have these in the kitchen, where they are on a LOT of the day.
One strip of 20 LEDs is brighter than 2 32 W 48" fluorescents.
Not only looks brighter, but my photometer also says they are
brighter.  I have them suspended inside the drop ceiling dual
fluorescent fixtures with 2 x 4' plastic diffusers that were 
there before.

I measured the power draw of the old magnetic ballast, it 
was 103 W
with a real power meter.  The new system reads 21 W.

I guesstimate payback in about 3 years.

I first did a 10 W unit with a power supply I made myself, 
it has been running
about 18 months so far, and is still working really well, 
too.  I think if you
use good LEDs at reasonable current levels, the dimming over 
time will
be very slow.  Cree has lifetime charts that show several 
hundred K hours
before significant loss of brightness.  I did make sure the 
LEDs run pretty
cool, much cooler than a lot of the stuff sold in stores.

Jon



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