Going even more off topic - these aren't particularly useful shop 
lights, but they are blindingly bright and incredibly cheap.  
100 Watts, 9000 lumens.
They need heat sinking (I've used CPU fan/sink combos).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380515680644


On Sat, Nov 8, 2014, at 05:06 PM, Tom Easterday wrote:
> Since this thread is heading down the path of DIY, and since I just ordered 
> some more of these for a lamp I am upgrading, I thought I would mention this 
> very useful LED module from Seoul Semiconductor which is powered directly off 
> 120/220V mains.  All that is required is a heat sink to mount it to and Bob’s 
> Your Uncle.
> http://www.seoulsemicon.com/en/html/application/application.asp?catecode=3011&subcode=28
>  
> <http://www.seoulsemicon.com/en/html/application/application.asp?catecode=3011&subcode=28>
> This very bright one is going into my lamp:  
> http://www.seoulsemicon.com/_upload/Goods_Spec/SMJE-XV12W2P4(0).pdf 
> <http://www.seoulsemicon.com/_upload/Goods_Spec/SMJE-XV12W2P4(0).pdf>
> They can be found at Digi-key, Mouser and various other places.
> -Tom
> 
> > On Nov 8, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On 11/08/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
> >>>> I wonder how long it takes to pay back the $75
> >> difference at 9 watts?
> >> 
> >> 9 watts x 2000 hrs per year = 18KWHR/yr     @ $0.10 per KWHR that would
> >> be $1.80 per year so a payback of  $75/$1.8 = $41.6 years
> >> 
> >> 
> > I made up my own LED retrofits, because I couldn't find 
> > anything that looked
> > like it would work well.  I bought Cree 1W LEDs, and put a 
> > string of 20 of
> > them on strips of PC board material with little grooves 
> > cutting the
> > copper path.  Each LED has 2 square inches of copper as a 
> > heat sink.
> > I used commercial LED lighting regulators, which were pretty 
> > expensive.
> > I have these in the kitchen, where they are on a LOT of the day.
> > One strip of 20 LEDs is brighter than 2 32 W 48" fluorescents.
> > Not only looks brighter, but my photometer also says they are
> > brighter.  I have them suspended inside the drop ceiling dual
> > fluorescent fixtures with 2 x 4' plastic diffusers that were 
> > there before.
> > 
> > I measured the power draw of the old magnetic ballast, it 
> > was 103 W
> > with a real power meter.  The new system reads 21 W.
> > 
> > I guesstimate payback in about 3 years.
> > 
> > I first did a 10 W unit with a power supply I made myself, 
> > it has been running
> > about 18 months so far, and is still working really well, 
> > too.  I think if you
> > use good LEDs at reasonable current levels, the dimming over 
> > time will
> > be very slow.  Cree has lifetime charts that show several 
> > hundred K hours
> > before significant loss of brightness.  I did make sure the 
> > LEDs run pretty
> > cool, much cooler than a lot of the stuff sold in stores.
> > 
> > Jon
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