On Sunday 06 September 2015 05:05:09 Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 05.09.15 20:49, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > This brings up a question re locking the shaft into its bearings. 
> > Red threadlocker seems like it should work.  Doesn't.  Superglue
> > seems like it should work.  Doesn't.  These bearings are a hundred
> > lb or more press fit on this A2 shaft, and they still walk the shaft
> > thru them given enough time.
> >
> > So, is there a magic glue concoction that will lock the shaft to the
> > bearings?
>
> Dunno how good the magic, but a month or two ago, I asked the
> manufacturers of Loctite whether their 680, or 680 upgrade,
> gear/bearing retaining goop, with appropriate primer, would be good
> for locking a zirconia bearing onto a stainless steel shaft. they
> said:
>
> "Unfortunately, LOCTITE anaerobic products (like the 680) can only be
> used on metal surfaces. Zirconia is a non metal (i.e. ceramic) and a
> Primer is not suitable for this application."
>
> So I didn't try it, but it might do the trick in your application.
> I found their info file:
>
> 328661_Customer_Infomation_Loctite_680_AP_131105.pdf
>
> from this page: http://www.loctite.com.au/retaining-4052.htm
> but there's doubtless a page somewhere with less electron-mileage in
> it.
>
> The headline illustration in the pdf shows preparation for its use in
> retaining a bearing. The introduction says: "Typical applications
> include holding gears and sprockets onto gearbox shafts and rotors on
> electric motor shafts."

Since these treadmill motors all seem to be a threaded shaft, that is of 
interest.

> Incidentally, I figure you meant "locking the shaft into one of its
> bearings", the other necessarily being retained in its housing
> instead, to allow for thermal expansion of the shaft, chosen e.g. a
> la:
>
> http://www.smbbearings.com/technical/bearing-shaft-housing-fit.html
>
> Erik
> (who's only pretending to know anything about bearings)

Heck Erik,I don't even play one on tv. ;o)  Thermal expansion shouldn't 
be a problem as the alu frame will likely not warm as fast even if its 
expansion is greater than a piece of A2.  Temp range over a year in that 
building is from about 40F to maybe 105F when its all closed up in the 
summer sun.  But I have a vent fan that comes on when the humidity or 
temps go about 70 or so, just enough electric heat in the winter to keep 
everything above the dew point.  I hate rusted tools.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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