On 02/02/2016 09:05 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> I don't hear it, but since they are toroids on ferrite cores, would I
> hear that?  They are very quiet otherwise.
Your power transformers are Ferrite?  Are you sure?  If 
these are Hammond toroids, they are wound up with a steel 
strip.  I can't imagine running a power supply at 60 Hz with 
a ferrite transformer.
>> If the transformer is fed
>> half-wave power, the core will saturate in barely more than
>> one line cycle, and a tripped breaker seems quite likely.
>> Zero-crossing SSRs are really NOT good for transformers,
>> anyway, as they just about guarantee a saturated start for
>> the transformer, anyway.  What you REALLY want is a relay
>> that always closes on the voltage peak, but they don't make
>> those.
> Noted previously.  And it hurts. I think that may be some fraction of the
> why I had to put a 30 amp breaker on that circuit in the first place.
>
> Bears investigating for sure, thanks Jon.
>
>> Anyway, it seems my idea would require only moving a couple
>> wires, so you might try it.
>>
>> Jon
>>
> I think that is what I have, but possibly not, Jon.  It wouldn't be at
> all hard to fix in the event its not that way.  But again, it runs all
> day, then trips the breaker coincident with ther button click, seconds
> BEFORE either SSR is turned off.  Thats what doesn't grok.  Weirdsville.
>
>
Ahh, BEFORE the SSR is turned off.  Now, THAT is 
interesting!  I wonder if there is something that is fouling 
up the load side of the supply, like turning on BOTH the 
forward and reverse relays at the same time, or something 
crazy like that.  Maybe the way the logic is set up the 
E-stop condition is different from the "turn it off" 
condition.  Whatever the outputs do for E-stop should be the 
same as Off.
But, maybe there is a momentary bobble on the commands to 
the SSRs when you click the button.
I'm guessing that means the E-stop button here.

Jon

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